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ToeNail 02-12-2005 08:35 AM

World's Top 10 Military *Currently*
 
I know this might be a bunch of opinions but, who do you think the top 10 world's most strongest military is?
I've only heard that US is #1 but unsure of others. Any ideas?

elstatec 02-12-2005 08:49 AM

pretty gay topic but id think china, not america

Maplegyver 02-12-2005 08:53 AM

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pretty gay topic


ToeNail 02-12-2005 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by elstatec
pretty gay topic but id think china, not america

China has numbers but not skilled or good equipment.

Maplegyver 02-12-2005 09:07 AM

dont underestimate them

Machette 02-12-2005 10:59 AM

Military
The Korean People's Army encompasses the army, navy and air force and has 1.08 million active personnel and 4.7 million in reserves.

Military expenditures account for 31.3 percent of GDP expenditures, making North Korea --- dollar for dollar --- the world's most militaristic state.

Nearly one out of every four citizens serves in some military capacity.

North Korea is said to have an extensive chemical weapons program. A report by the Federation of American Scientists says that North Korea has chemical stockpiles of at least 180-250 tons of reserve-weaponized agents.

North Korea also reportedly has a biological weapons program based at the National Defense Research Institute and Medical Academy. This program is not as extensive as the chemical weapons program.

from cnn.com
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiap ... index.html

Johnj 02-12-2005 11:04 AM

It's hard not to take the Chinese lightly. The best their armored units have done is to crush unarmed Chinese citizens. Their fighter pilots can't stay out of a big-ass 4 turbo-prop engine EWAC planes way. Exactly who have the Chinese ever beaten. Remember Iraq was supposed to have the #4 military because the CIA said so. I'd be more worried about the Indians.

Short Hand 02-12-2005 12:00 PM

When fighting any conventional war these days, ground power means little in comparisions to air power. With air power, you pretty much control the battlefield.

Jin-Roh 02-12-2005 02:09 PM

Most Militaristic (Expidentures):
1. Israel - $1466.51 per person = $276.7 billion (FY99 est.)
2.Singapore - $969.92 per person = $4.47 billion (FY01 est.)
3. United States - $953.01 per person = $8.97 billion (FY02)

Most Militaristic (Man Power):
1. China - 375,520,255 (2003 est.)
2. India - 288,251,975 (2003 est.)
3. United States - 73,597,731 (2003 est.)

Most Militaristic (Growth):
... A lot of third-world countries. oOo:

Most tanks:
1.Russia - 21,000 tanks
2.United States - 16,000 tanks
3.China - 11,000 tanks
4.Poland - 3,200 tanks
5.Germany - 2,300 tanks

Ferich 02-12-2005 02:46 PM

Not in any certain order, just my random list of good militaries in the present time.

NATO

Israel

China

South Korea

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elstatec 02-12-2005 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ToeNail
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Originally Posted by elstatec
pretty gay topic but id think china, not america

China has numbers but not skilled or good equipment.

thats bull. dont under estimate them. just because they havent been very prominant in any wars doesnt mean they are with poor equipment or mentality

Tystnad 02-13-2005 01:45 AM

I know for a fact that about 10 years or so ago, Sweden could take on any airforce in the world and make it big against them. But now, they are cutting down so dramatically on the military side, that by the year 2007, Sweden will only have around 27 000 troops, compared to the 250 000 or so we have today. All because of the EU. annoy:

Trunks 02-13-2005 10:59 AM

my opinion.

1) USA
2) Russia
3) China
4) N. Korea
5) Israel
6) S. Korea
7) Great Britain
8) France
9) Canada
10) India

Note that these are based on lots of factors such as number of tanks, number of men in military, and the economy, because in a time of war, a country needs a strong economy to hold itself together(which is why Russia is second). Oh and shorthand, I completely disagree. Airpower is important, just as naval power is, but the deciding factor will always be ground troops. Of course air superiority is a tremendous advantage, however, there are lots of other factors involved.

Duke_of_Ray 02-13-2005 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trunks
my opinion.

1) USA
2) Russia
3) China
4) N. Korea
5) Israel
6) S. Korea
7) Great Britain
8) France
9) Canada
10) India

Note that these are based on lots of factors such as number of tanks, number of men in military, and the economy, because in a time of war, a country needs a strong economy to hold itself together(which is why Russia is second). Oh and shorthand, I completely disagree. Airpower is important, just as naval power is, but the deciding factor will always be ground troops. Of course air superiority is a tremendous advantage, however, there are lots of other factors involved.

France should not be on that list. annoy:

With me in the military, the U.S. will be so awesome you will not even want to look at us.

ninty 02-13-2005 09:17 PM

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France should not be on that list. annoy:
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stupid:

Pyro 02-14-2005 07:54 AM

Israel shouldn't be allowed to have the army they have imo. If we can say shit about Iraqs power and so on...why should Israel? I guess they like fighting wars as much as their favourite country USA.

tomxtr 02-14-2005 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Israel shouldn't be allowed to have the army they have imo. If we can say shit about Iraqs power and so on...why should Israel? I guess they like fighting wars as much as their favourite country USA.

What is your beef with Israel? Just curious.

Pyro 02-14-2005 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Israel shouldn't be allowed to have the army they have imo. If we can say shit about Iraqs power and so on...why should Israel? I guess they like fighting wars as much as their favourite country USA.

What is your beef with Israel? Just curious.

I just think we praise them here too much, when they were at fault for the palestine-israeli wars as well.

Israel-Palenstine Wars reminds me of this years NHL Lockout.

Jin-Roh 02-14-2005 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
I just think we praise them here too much, when they were at fault for the palestine-israeli wars as well.

Israel-Palenstine Wars reminds me of this years NHL Lockout.

They buy stuff from us, and they are mostly Jewish. America = rich, Jews = rich, what a solid, concrete alliance.

Unknown_Sniper 02-14-2005 01:28 PM

not to mention their airforce can spank most otehr countries 10 times as large as israel. I have no clue what the top 10 militaries are, But Ill bet most of them are in the news right now for being in continued fighting. and then of course a couple more being all quiet and waiting for the right moment( me looks to the north) the_finger:

Maplegyver 02-14-2005 02:14 PM

there is really no right momment for war.

Jin-Roh 02-14-2005 03:05 PM

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":915a5]not to mention their airforce can spank most otehr countries 10 times as large as israel.[/quote:915a5]


Yes, top airforcesesses:
1. US
2. Israel
3. Russia

Jin-Roh 02-14-2005 03:12 PM

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http://cricriweb.free.fr/t/Top%20gun.jpg

No. -1

Maplegyver 02-14-2005 03:14 PM

bomb me

Jin-Roh 02-14-2005 03:16 PM

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bomb me

Happy Valentinos day maple. beer:

Trunks 02-14-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by tomxtr
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Israel shouldn't be allowed to have the army they have imo. If we can say shit about Iraqs power and so on...why should Israel? I guess they like fighting wars as much as their favourite country USA.

What is your beef with Israel? Just curious.

I just think we praise them here too much, when they were at fault for the palestine-israeli wars as well.

Israel-Palenstine Wars reminds me of this years NHL Lockout.

Pyro, I dont know what sh-t youve been hearing but let me clear things up for you.
1) We arent affraid of powerful/large militaries, we are afraid of WMD's.
2) Israel is our only ally in the middle east so it would do us some good if it were a force to be rackoned with.
3) They werent at fault for any wars. In all the wars faught against Israel, including the conflict with paestinians, (whom I might add blow up themselves, run away, andd use women and children as human shields), Israel was always the one defending, and therefore it has never been the agressor.

Jin-Roh 02-14-2005 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Trunks
Pyro, I dont know what sh-t youve been hearing but let me clear things up for you.
1) We arent affraid of powerful/large militaries, we are afraid of WMD's.
2) Israel is our only ally in the middle east so it would do us some good if it were a force to be rackoned with.
3) They werent at fault for any wars. In all the wars faught against Israel, including the conflict with paestinians, (whom I might add blow up themselves, run away, andd use women and children as human shields), Israel was always the one defending, and therefore it has never been the agressor.

Feel free to make this into a new thread. Lets have an argument/debate about Israel-Palestine. If you don't, then I will.

strvs 02-14-2005 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trunks
Israel was always the one defending, and therefore it has never been the agressor.

Are you sure about this?

Israel only appears to be the defender, because instead of traditional means of war, they sponsor terrorist programs and mass murder within other countries, with their own political interests in mind. Its and easy stunt to pull off when you have the most influental world power backing you up. Who, coincedentally, have committed similar atrocitys in the past, all swept under the rug.

Its obviously an effective tactic, they seem to have you convinced.

Theres more information on this here:
http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/view ... ?t=1005938

Unknown_Sniper 02-14-2005 08:24 PM

israel has not always been the defending country. BAck in the day ther ewas a thing called I believe the 7 days war. In this war israel carried out extremely accurate, and devestating attaacks on certain locations throughout hte middle east. Their airforce is to date the only known military power to have ever directly attacked and damged a nuclrear power plant(In egypt) and then taken out all of the sorrounding countries major military strengths. And they even destroyed one US spy ship in the mediteranian becuase they thought it was an attack ship. Why did Israel do this? because Jordan, egypt, and a bunch of the otehr major powers in the 70's were planning and in the pre war stages of a full scale invasion of israel. last I check Israel was still there. that says something about them.

Jin-Roh 02-14-2005 09:30 PM

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":8beb5]israel has not always been the defending country. BAck in the day ther ewas a thing called I believe the 7 days war. In this war israel carried out extremely accurate, and devestating attaacks on certain locations throughout hte middle east. Their airforce is to date the only known military power to have ever directly attacked and damged a nuclrear power plant(In egypt) and then taken out all of the sorrounding countries major military strengths. And they even destroyed one US spy ship in the mediteranian becuase they thought it was an attack ship. Why did Israel do this? because Jordan, egypt, and a bunch of the otehr major powers in the 70's were planning and in the pre war stages of a full scale invasion of israel. last I check Israel was still there. that says something about them.[/quote:8beb5]

Who cares... Israel is leet at fighting.

Maplegyver 02-15-2005 06:12 AM

fighting palestinian millita.

Trunks 02-15-2005 01:27 PM

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":0c684]israel has not always been the defending country. BAck in the day ther ewas a thing called I believe the 7 days war. In this war israel carried out extremely accurate, and devestating attaacks on certain locations throughout hte middle east. Their airforce is to date the only known military power to have ever directly attacked and damged a nuclrear power plant(In egypt) and then taken out all of the sorrounding countries major military strengths. And they even destroyed one US spy ship in the mediteranian becuase they thought it was an attack ship. Why did Israel do this? because Jordan, egypt, and a bunch of the otehr major powers in the 70's were planning and in the pre war stages of a full scale invasion of israel. last I check Israel was still there. that says something about them.[/quote:0c684]first of all, I am pretty sure it was the 6 day war. Secon of all, in the six day war, as in the yom kippur war, israel was attacked on first and then and only then, it retaliated and won both conflicts. What people dont seem to realize is that israel has the most humanitarian military forces in the world, and people sh-t all over israel all the time for killing "innocent" palestinian civilians, but if somebody said that about the US killing innocent iraqi civilains then that person would be public enemy #1.

strvs- I didnt read the entire article, but I got the gist if it and when I get a chance I will read the entire thing, however, for now I would like to say that all countries do what they need to do in the pursuit of their political interests. That my friend is the bitter truth. As for involvment in the attacks, there are many theories as to how the attacks occured, some include the US itself causing them. So for right now, all this is to me is another theory/rumor.

strvs 02-15-2005 04:18 PM

Aside from the 9/11 claims, almost all of the "false flags" israel have used have been found out. It isnt a "theory" my friend, its fact.

One of the latest incidents:
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2005/02/fa ... ttack.html

Israel is on no moral high ground. The country practices apartheid and racism, but hides it very well. The extent of this attitude is appaling, to the point that non-jews can't even be buried with jews.

Human rights issues plague the area. Isreal believes that slavery and the buying and selling of human beings is not a criminal offence. Their practices of stealing palestine land is also sickening. Using a 55 year old law to gain control over "unoccupied land", which means, if you leave your farm, you better get back quick, or it's israels land now.

The apartheid wall in the west bank seperates farmers from their land, which is quickly siezed by israel. lets all feel sorry for israel.

I suggest you read into israels atrocitys, and then decide for yourself whether or not they're the "defender"

I certainly dont think the encirclement of East Jerusalem is an act of defense.

Unknown_Sniper 02-15-2005 04:21 PM

[quote=Trunks]
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Originally Posted by "Unknown_Sniper":17488
israel has not always been the defending country. BAck in the day ther ewas a thing called I believe the 7 days war. In this war israel carried out extremely accurate, and devestating attaacks on certain locations throughout hte middle east. Their airforce is to date the only known military power to have ever directly attacked and damged a nuclrear power plant(In egypt) and then taken out all of the sorrounding countries major military strengths. And they even destroyed one US spy ship in the mediteranian becuase they thought it was an attack ship. Why did Israel do this? because Jordan, egypt, and a bunch of the otehr major powers in the 70's were planning and in the pre war stages of a full scale invasion of israel. last I check Israel was still there. that says something about them.

first of all, I am pretty sure it was the 6 day war. Secon of all, in the six day war, as in the yom kippur war, israel was attacked on first and then and only then, it retaliated and won both conflicts. What people dont seem to realize is that israel has the most humanitarian military forces in the world, and people sh-t all over israel all the time for killing "innocent" palestinian civilians, but if somebody said that about the US killing innocent iraqi civilains then that person would be public enemy #1.
.[/quote:17488]

I didnt exactly have the time ot go find an article about it however than you for correcting my mistake of it being the 6 day war. everything else I said still goes though so I hope you arent trying to attack me in that.

Trunks 02-15-2005 06:44 PM

hehe, u make me laugh. And racism isnt practiced in America, or France, or britain? It is everywhere. Whether it is as bad as you say in Israel I doubt, because I have quite a bit of family living there. The bit about slavery is, pure bull sh-t.(not trying to offend you, just calling them as i see them). And i maintain that in all armed conflicts between nations, Israel is always the defender. If you dont believe me, then look it up. And for every time that Israel fakes an attack, I am sure that there are 100 real incidents. Of course I must admit me being a jew and having family there makes me a bit biased, but i dont just come up with the things I say from the top of my head, If I say it I am pretty sure that its true.

strvs 02-15-2005 06:49 PM

how do i make you laugh? you being convinced that israel has never once in history been the agressor makes me think you don't know too much.

Everything i say can be backed up by a source, im just not too keen on searching for a relevant article for everything i say. Give me time, and i can come up with severable reliable sources for everything i have said so far. To simply make this shit up would be ludicrous.

Merlin122 02-15-2005 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Trunks
hehe, u make me laugh. And racism isnt practiced in America, or France, or britain? It is everywhere. Whether it is as bad as you say in Israel I doubt, because I have quite a bit of family living there. The bit about slavery is, pure bull sh-t.(not trying to offend you, just calling them as i see them). And i maintain that in all armed conflicts between nations, Israel is always the defender. If you dont believe me, then look it up. And for every time that Israel fakes an attack, I am sure that there are 100 real incidents. Of course I must admit me being a jew and having family there makes me a bit biased, but i dont just come up with the things I say from the top of my head, If I say it I am pretty sure that its true.


racism is practiced constantly in the U.S. you just don't see it directly. Corporations hide wage gouges from the public easily for africans americans or general minorities. You have a lot to learn, kid.

Trunks 02-15-2005 07:05 PM

im sorry if I offended you. But every since Israel was established in 1948, all the wars it particpated in was only because it was attacked first, and i will prove it. Ah I found it. This site shows all the wars and gives a little bit of info about them. I was a bit off as it seems that israel did attack in some of them, but If you look into the summary of those wars you will see y Israel reacted the way it did.
http://www.historyguy.com/arab_israeli_wars.html
EDIT: Umm, merlin, I was being sarcastic...

Maplegyver 02-15-2005 07:19 PM

1.canada

strvs 02-15-2005 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trunks
im sorry if I offended you. But every since Israel was established in 1948, all the wars it particpated in was only because it was attacked first, and i will prove it. Ah I found it. This site shows all the wars and gives a little bit of info about them. I was a bit off as it seems that israel did attack in some of them, but If you look into the summary of those wars you will see y Israel reacted the way it did.
http://www.historyguy.com/arab_israeli_wars.html
EDIT: Umm, merlin, I was being sarcastic...

Why do you think the arab nations attacked with such force? just because? israel got their way into that land through the help of britian, without their help they may have very well started a war to gain land within palestine.


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