Could Bush Be RIght>!>?
 

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/interna ... 78,00.html oOo:

I don't really see the comparison between Regan and the Berlin Wall, and Bush and his foreign policy.

Anyway, yes, I suppose it is possible that George Bush is doing everything right, and his foreign policy is the correct way to go about things, but in my mind, I doubt it.

Yeah...


... Agreed.

Here's a reason why:

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/interna ... 81,00.html

If Bush's foreign policy was right, then he could stand up in a non scripted event with unfiltered questions and he could shoot them all down. But obviously he can't do that. If he can't answer real life questions, then why should the world approve of his actions?

Let's just hope he is going about it right.

NO, he is right. He cant answer everyquestion, that information is ALWAYS misunderstood. Lets look at the facts:

Democracy in Afghanistan, Iraq. Lebanon protesters (which used to be illegal) has forced the powers out of office (peacefully) Syria will probably leave Lebanon. First Elections in Egypt AND Saudi Arabia. Quoted in NY Times by an Iranian saying we love Bush, we wish he was here-something like that. NY Times Admitted they had been wrong--JOhn Kerry was wrong, Left is wrong. But noone sees that-and that is what is rediculous. NO given credit to a cabinant (not person) who deserve it--all because of pride. REDICULOUS.

WHY did the leader of the anti-war movement in London resign?????He said that since Democracy has taken effect, not to support the war would be supporting terrorists. THIS IS THE LEADER of the ANTIWAR movement in a country who's public does now favor US Actions overseas.

Go back to school and make some sense. rolleyes:

[quote="Jin-Roh":79a37]Go back to school and make some sense. rolleyes:[/quote:79a37]

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Yes after that car bomb which killed 115 people in Iraq went of not to many days ago... huge strides are being made there...

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[quote="Short Hand":5b18f]Yes after that car bomb which killed 115 people in Iraq went of not to many days ago... huge strides are being made there...[/quote:5b18f]


there has been huge strides, people have power, every hospital has power. The people have VOTED. It is safer to be in Beruit than Washington DC. The women are going to school, the women are working. Whats not an upgrade with all that?

I’m not arguing just for the sake of arguing, but are there any sources out there that say the power is up and running? I watched a program on PBS I believe and I think it was on the 10th mountain, although I can’t exactly remember. I remember those guys going around town and asking the locals how things were going and the markets where people sell various items weren’t up and running. Many people had nothing to sell and nothing to do. At the end of the show something like 6 months later, the market still wasn’t up. I think there are major problems in Iraq. Many more problems than before unfortunately.

Also about the voting, don’t you think that was kid of a sham? There were somewhere around 200 parties on the list, and the people voting didn’t even know who they were voting for because no ones name was on the ballot and no pre election campaigning was done because people were afraid they’d be killed. People voted on a group. These groups were divided into sections like Shiite, Kurdish etc. So whoever has the most people in the country wins basically. In addition, they talk about how 58% of people voted. But I believe this number is of those who actually registered to vote. There were many millions of people who never registered to vote, and thus are not included in this percentage. I will look for the sources when I get home.

The most dangerous road in the world is now the road from the Baghdad airport. In Iraq I really believe there are more negatives than positives.

Also, why do you believe its safer to be in Beruit than DC?

Do you mean crime wise, or terrorism wise?

If your talking about terrorism, I really don't understand why. 3,000 people have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. I bet 3 times that many have been murdered. I bet its 10 fold the number who ahev died in car accidents and who ahve died from cancer and suicide and all these things. I see a real fixation and fear on terrorism, although its about as likley anyone dying from terrorism in the US as getting hit by lightning.

If you want my personal opinion, I believe the Bush administration has done a wonderful job of scaring the population into believing the threat to their security is much greater than it really is. Military and defence budgets are skyrocketing, while other things like drug education or counselling for mentally ill and dangerous people gets tossed by the wayside. Not to mention Education for the next generation of Americans and health care and that sort of thing. I don't mean to insult anyone. I've been to the US many times. I was there last year. The people are great. Theres nothing wrong with the people. I really just don't like the government. It may not be any of my business, but I can still have an opinion. I'm not anti-us in any way. I have grandparents that emigrated from the US.

first off President Bush had alot of catch up work to do from the Clinton administration. Clinton slashed the military budget to nothing. Then we go into war and Bush catches hell for not having proper armor for the humvees and soldiers. The health care issue is there no matter who is/was president. I will find the facts about my comparision between DC and Beruit. there have been more murders in DC than Beriut in the last year. Granted most of those killed in DC are gangs killing eachother and black on black crime. Our threat to security is real. Our borders are more porus than spongebob. We, as a country, have to cure this on both the Canadian side and the mexican side (which is much worse) It is well known that you hate the Bush administration and you are entitled to your opinion. I am of the firm belief that we are way better off with Bush than that weasel Kerry.

I have been to DC, and in the South East area, I think, there is lots of crime. Driving down the road, nearly every store was protected by metal fence-type things on the windows. Something I have never seen before, and it obviously told me, that crime was high in the area.

Okay, so say crime in DC is worse than Beruit. Is your position that Bush is infact right for his budget, and that a large portion of money should go to security and defence and that Bush's foreign policy is making America safer? Just want to know what your opinion relating to the topic is because I think were getting a little off the main point.

Also, above I'm not sure if I used the word 'hate', but if I did, I shouldn't have. I don't hate Bush or his people. I hate their policies, I don't hate the people.

hate may be strong but its not too far off, you post your dislike for President Bush quite often. Thats fine, you have your opinion. Our foreign policies can effect you too so I can see your intrest. I also understand your vemon towards Bush is just that towards Bush and not the people. Id like to see places like DC safer but I also want more money into our military. Clinton did some real damage to the military with all his cuts and we need to get back on track. Most of the crime in places like DC are gangs v gangs so to tell the truth they can all kill eachother and it wouldnt bother me. They are not a positive product in our society so lets vote them off the island!

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hate may be strong but its not too far off, you post your dislike for President Bush quite often. Thats fine, you have your opinion. Our foreign policies can effect you too so I can see your intrest. I also understand your vemon towards Bush is just that towards Bush and not the people. Id like to see places like DC safer but I also want more money into our military. Clinton did some real damage to the military with all his cuts and we need to get back on track. Most of the crime in places like DC are gangs v gangs so to tell the truth they can all kill eachother and it wouldnt bother me. They are not a positive product in our society so lets vote them off the island![/quote:ff249]

You are one ignorant hole of F%#. Thkz.

[quote="Short Hand":82b29]You are one ignorant hole of F%#. Thkz.[/quote:82b29]


thanks for your input spermbank

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":a9788]Most of the crime in places like DC are gangs v gangs so to tell the truth they can all kill eachother and it wouldnt bother me. They are not a positive product in our society so lets vote them off the island![/quote:a9788]

People join gangs because they feel unsafe in their own neighbourhood....They're a product of the environment....You should see the reasons behind historical migration into urban ghettos for most of the ghetto dwellers in your major cities. Doesn't excuse the choice to murder, and I'm not saying noone from those areas aren't at all to blame, but it puts things in perspective....

Fix the environment and you fix the problem. It's not easy, but fuck, you shouldn't have a "fuck them, we're doing okay" attitude towards your own countrymen....

It's not easy getting a foothold in the rat race when you start at the bottom of the stack, living in shit. They'd have to live harder than you did in order to get in the same position as you are in now. (I'm assuming you're a middle class white male from a nice neighbourhood)...

Peaaaace nag:

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hate may be strong but its not too far off, you post your dislike for President Bush quite often. Thats fine, you have your opinion. Our foreign policies can effect you too so I can see your intrest. I also understand your vemon towards Bush is just that towards Bush and not the people. Id like to see places like DC safer but I also want more money into our military. Clinton did some real damage to the military with all his cuts and we need to get back on track. Most of the crime in places like DC are gangs v gangs so to tell the truth they can all kill eachother and it wouldnt bother me. They are not a positive product in our society so lets vote them off the island![/quote:e41bd]

I post quite often because politics is one thing I quite enjoy. Whenever I get a chance to discuss a political topic, I usually jump right in. Does it matter how many times I state it? Whats the difference between stating it once, and 100 times? The only reason you see it is again because I post in most of the political topics.

Also, how is putting more money into the military going to make places safer? You might make other countries safer, but I don't think the military has anything to do with policing local communities. And why is so much money needed for the military? Why are military cuts a bad thing? You have the largers army navy and air force in the world.

but when the rape, kill, extort, steal and dael drugs we are better off without them