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Trunks 03-15-2005 06:44 PM

2012
 
Not sure if there has been a topic like this before, but for those who dont know, there are bible and torah codes, as well as predictions of nostradamus himself that the world will end in 2012, and that ww3 will break out, etc. I am not religious so i could really care less about teh torah and bible codes, but nostradamus's prediction does have some signifigance to me. My friend sent me this interesting page that u guys might wanna check out. http://paranormal.about.com/library/wee ... 50602b.htm
Anyway, wat do u guys think? And please, lets do our best to keep this on a relatively mature level?

dr nein 03-15-2005 06:48 PM

Sweet, that's the year I came up with in my head based on absolutely nothing.

Welp, better start purchasing more guns.

Blase 03-15-2005 06:48 PM

He's not prediciting the world will end in 2012, The prediction of WW3 is that it would have started in 2002, and ended in 2012.

Trunks 03-15-2005 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blase
He's not prediciting the world will end in 2012, The prediction of WW3 is that it would have started in 2002, and ended in 2012.

this page is just one of his prophecies. In another one, he predicts thw world will end in 2012.

Unknown_Sniper 03-15-2005 06:50 PM

its not the end of the world. Most religious texts say it will be the end of this age of man and the starting of a new age. Some believe that there will be massive earthquakes, and the ring of fire willl erupt. Some think the magnetic poles will do their reversal then. There are a lot of theories. Just enjoy the time you have now.

Drew 03-15-2005 06:52 PM

Don't the Mayan, Aztec and Incan calendars all end in 2012.. or is that 2013?

Trunks 03-15-2005 06:52 PM

but it is human nature to wonder is it not? And thats is percisely wat wre doing lol. Imo, the biggest threat to man, is, well man.

Gonzo 03-15-2005 06:53 PM

bla bla bla bla ill believe it when i see it

Ape 03-15-2005 06:55 PM

oh well well be old then, we all die, its nature

Unknown_Sniper 03-15-2005 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew
Don't the Mayan, Aztec and Incan calendars all end in 2012.. or is that 2013?

The mayan are huge in this theory. Yes it is 2012. They are the ones I know have said teh new age will start then. Some say the second coming of jesus will happen, who knows. The Mayans however have made predictions that to this day have been extremely accurate. So we shall soon see what happens.

Trunks 03-15-2005 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo
bla bla bla bla ill believe it when i see it

*nukes fly past his window* ahhhhh shit. :p
Edit: and the mayans are another interesting point to bring up.

dr nein 03-15-2005 06:56 PM

Human nature is to kill eachother.

I NEED ANTI-TANK SUPPORT.

Stammer 03-15-2005 06:57 PM

stupid:

Tell me when it's acually happening because right now I don't give a shit.

PS: If anything God, nor Ice, nor Fire will destroy the world. Humans will.

Ape 03-15-2005 06:58 PM

we'll all die in se7en years!!!!!!!!!!

Miscguy 03-15-2005 07:00 PM

I think the mayan calender ended when there civilazation ceased to be.

Stammer 03-15-2005 07:03 PM

wtf, fucking mayans say world is going to end on december 21st 2012, i'm gonna miss christmas...sons a bitchs

Unknown_Sniper 03-15-2005 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Miscguy
I think the mayan calender ended when there civilazation ceased to be.

actually its still around and its more accurate than our calendar.

Trunks 03-15-2005 07:04 PM

[quote="$p!k3":71768]wtf, fucking mayans say world is going to end on december 21st 2012, i'm gonna miss christmas...sons a bitchs[/quote:71768]thats kinda funny... Altho i think ur gonna have more important things to worry about than christmas if they are right.

dr nein 03-15-2005 07:06 PM

Didn't some calender in the Great Pyramid stop on May 5, 2000 or something like that?

Unknown_Sniper 03-15-2005 07:10 PM

[quote="dr nein":72bac]Didn't some calender in the Great Pyramid stop on May 5, 2000 or something like that?[/quote:72bac]
dont know. but then again this months calendar ends on thrusday march 31.

Trunks 03-15-2005 07:15 PM

[quote="dr nein":ea531]Didn't some calender in the Great Pyramid stop on May 5, 2000 or something like that?[/quote:ea531]not sure wat exaclty ur refering to, can u be a bit more specfic?

Machette 03-15-2005 07:16 PM

Nostradamus did predict Napoleon, Hitler and the third anti-christs which to me is still unknown but people think its Osama Bin Laden etc. This guy lived in the Renaissance and predicted this, pretty hard for someone to say its all bullshit.

dr nein 03-15-2005 07:18 PM

No. I just remember hearing about a calender in the Great Pyramid that a few people were fretting about years back. Then when the time came, amazingly nothing happened.

Perhaps they simply didn't feel like carving a calender for the rest of time.

Coleman 03-15-2005 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
Nostradamus did predict Napoleon, Hitler and the third anti-christs which to me is still unknown but people think its Osama Bin Laden etc. This guy lived in the Renaissance and predicted this, pretty hard for someone to say its all bullshit.

i think it's bullshit because it's not real predictions that are made clear before stuff happens. Like now you can find a 'translation' or whatever you want to call it for just about anything you want.

I remember seeing a show on TV that showed some guy using the same program that they search the Bible and other religious texts. Instead of the Bible, he put in an article from the newspaper and he 'found evidence of a pattern that talked about hitler'. You can find anything you want to find in those texts is basically what I'm getting at.

Sgt>Stackem 03-15-2005 07:25 PM

2112
"and the meek shall inherit the earth"

Trunks 03-15-2005 07:26 PM

u can find evidence of things after they happened yes, but what about before they happened?

Scorpion -]M15F1T[- 03-15-2005 07:28 PM

One thing is weird there seems to be a lot of clues lying round. I wonder what ever happened to the thing the found in the sphinxs foot. They x rayed it one time and saw a box. They think its the ark or somethin but the egyptians wont let em go open it.

Stammer 03-15-2005 07:28 PM

Machette supposdly after the current Pope dies, his succesor will have a short rule, and the one after that will be the anti-christ. Atleast thats what I've heard.

But I'm gonna have to just say this...

"God if there is a god save my soul if I have a soul."

Some of you might get it.

Trunks 03-15-2005 07:29 PM

[quote="Scorpion -]M15F1T[-":9fa3e]One thing is weird there seems to be a lot of clues lying round. I wonder what ever happened to the thing the found in the sphinxs foot. They x rayed it one time and saw a box. They think its the ark or somethin but the egyptians wont let em go open it.[/quote:9fa3e]interesting... Do u have an article about it or something?

Coleman 03-15-2005 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trunks
u can find evidence of things after they happened yes, but what about before they happened?

when you do things like that you get in the confusion and shady work of interpretation. Alot of his stuff is pretty general and open to interpretation. So if I made a prediciton about 'the rise of a powerful man that walks through the shadows of hell as he conquers'. That sounds lame; I'm just using it as an example. Those things can been seen in so many ways.

Sniper101 03-15-2005 07:32 PM

I have a book with most of his predictions, now given it was publish in the late 80's and everything he predicted had come true to the hour eek: he did predict a WWIII that would start with a man with a turban or as he put it a towel on his head and from the middle east somewhere.

Trunks 03-15-2005 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trunks
u can find evidence of things after they happened yes, but what about before they happened?

when you do things like that you get in the confusion and shady work of interpretation. Alot of his stuff is pretty general and open to interpretation. So if I made a prediciton about 'the rise of a powerful man that walks through the shadows of hell as he conquers'. That sounds lame; I'm just using it as an example. Those things can been seen in so many ways.

i guess u may have a point, but even these general expressions are based around something taht did happen yes?

dr nein 03-15-2005 07:34 PM

MiscGuy will shoot many people in his lifetime.
Noctis will bang some hot chick.
Judas will sleep with a man.
Inny will get some bad hash and be sick for weeks.

ninty 03-15-2005 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
Nostradamus did predict Napoleon, Hitler and the third anti-christs which to me is still unknown but people think its Osama Bin Laden etc. This guy lived in the Renaissance and predicted this, pretty hard for someone to say its all bullshit.

Napoleon
Throughout Nostradamus' quatrains he speaks of three powerful and tyrannical leaders that he calls anti-Christs. He said they would lead their people through reigns of terror after first seducing them with promises of greatness (Guentte). Napoleon is thought to have been the first of these anti-Christs. Of Napoleon's rise to power and years as Emperor Nostradamus wrote:

An Emperor shall be born near Italy.
Who shall cost the Empire dear,
They shall say, with what people he keeps company
He shall be found less a Prince than a butcher.


Napoleon, who was considered a butcher even by his supporters, certainly cost the Empire dearly in both manpower and political
strength (Roberts 29).

From a simple soldier he will rise to the empire,
From the short robe he will attain the long.
Great swarms of bees shall arise.


After becoming Emperor, Napoleon adopted the beehive as his imperial crest (Ward 297). Some scholars say that Nostradamus was referring to Napoleon's destruction of Moscow when he wrote:

A great troop shall come through Russia.
The destroyer shall ruin a city.


Napoleon's forces drove too far and got trapped in the Russian winter (Guentte). The following verse resembles what could have been Napoleon's retreat across the icy part of Russia.

The rear guard will make defense.
The exhausted ones will die in the white territory. (Guentte)


Nostradamus made other predictions of Napoleon's fate:

The great Empire will soon be exchanged for a small place.
Which will soon begin to grow.
A small place of tiny area in the middle of which
He will come to lay down his scepter. (Reader's Digest 513)

The captive prince, conquered, is sent to Elba;
He will sail across the Gulf of Genoa to Marseilles.
By a great effort of the foreign forces he is overcome,
Though he escaped the fire, his bees yield blood by the barrel. (Ward 311)

Napoleon was exiled to the small island of Elba but escaped for 100 days. After a defeat at Waterloo he relinquished all power for exile on tiny St. Helena (Reader's Digest 513).

Hitler
The second anti-Christ Nostradamus wrote about was "a man stained with murder...the great enemy of the human race...one who was worse than any who had gone before...bloody and inhuman." Experts are in agreement that the sixteenth century prophet was referring to Adolf Hitler (Guentte).

Out of the deepest part of the west of Europe,
From poor people a young child shall be born,
Who with his tongue shall seduce many people,
His fame shall increase in the Eastern Kingdom.


Adolf Hitler, born in Austria of poor parents, with his knowledge of mob psychology and powers of speech, was successful in seducing many people , even in the Eastern Empire of Japan (Roberts 88). In some quatrains Nostradamus refers to Hitler as the child or sometimes captain of Germany. Here are two examples:

He shall come to tyrannize the land.
He shall raise up a hatred that had long been dormant.
The child of Germany observes no law.
Cries, and tears, fire, blood, and battle.

A captain of Germany shall come to yield himself by false hope,
So that his revolt shall cause great bloodshed. (Guentte)


All of these images certainly describe Adolf Hitler. After seducing his people, Hitler ignored all treaties and began a massive invasion of Europe (Guentte). In the following verse, some experts say that Nostradamus actually referred to Hitler by name but missed by one letter.

Beasts wild with hunger will cross the rivers
The greater part of the battlefield will be against Hister.


Finally, Nostradamus sums up Hitler's life and even predicts the fact that his death in Berlin in 1945 would never be satisfactorily
confirmed:

Near the Rhine from the Austrian mountains
Will be born a great man of the people, come too late.
A man who will defend Poland and Hungary
And whose fate will never be certain (Reader's Digest 515).


Third Anti-Christ
According to Nostradamus, the first two anti-Christs were extremely evil, and history has shown this to be so; however, Nostradamus speaks of a third anti-Christ who is more hideous than all the others combined. Some say Sadaam Hussein, the dictator from Iraq, could be this evil tyrant. Others say that he has not yet appeared. What does Nostradamus say about this third anti-Christ? First, Nostradamus tells us he will come from the Middle East.

Out of the country of Greater Arabia
Shall be born a strong master of Mohammed...
He will enter Europe wearing a blue turban.
He will be the terror of mankind.
Never more horror.


Here, Nostradamus says that a man from Greater Arabia will lead his forces on an invasion through Europe. This invasion will start a third world war that will be far worse than all the other wars put together (Guentte). When will all this take place? In one quatrain Nostradamus gives us an exact date in which the war will be well under way.

In the year 1999 and seven months
From the sky will come the great King of Terror.
He will bring back to life the King of the Mongols;
Before and after war reigns.


Nostradamus predicts the war will begin shortly before the year 1999 (Roberts 191). He also tells us how long the war will last.

The war will last seven and twenty years. (Guentte)

Nostradamus says that the war will be so terrible that the world will come face to face with final annihilation. Here, he implies that the war might involve some kind of horrible weapon, possibly nuclear. Nostradamus tells what the first target will be.

The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city.

In this phrase, Nostradamus refers to a great city in the new world of America near forty-five degrees latitude. Experts agree this could only be New York.

By fire he will destroy their city,
A cold and cruel heart,
Blood will pour,
Mercy to none. (Guentte)


Although Nostradamus 's predictions for our future sound frightening he does give us some hope by telling us how this third world war will end. He says it will end as a result of an unexpected alliance.

When those of the Northern Pole are united,
In the East will be great fear and dread...
One day the two great leaders will be friends;
Their great powers will be seen to grow.
The New Land will be at the height of its power:
To the man of blood the number is reported.

The new land was a common term used by Nostradamus to refer to what we now call America. The countries of the northern pole could be Russia and the United States. We have recently seen the breakdown of Communism in Russia and an increasing friendship between Russia and the U.S. (Reader's Digest 515).

Was Nostradamus a fraud or a prophet? There are some who say that the seeming accuracy of his quatrains are a result of their facile interpretations (Guentte). Still, more than four hundred books and essays about his prophecies have been published since his death in 1566, along with a great number of articles and other commentaries, in numerous languages (Randi 5). Even skeptics pay careful attention to Nostradamus' predictions of the three anti-Christs. If Nostradamus truly predicted Napoleon and Hitler we should take heed of his words about the future. Perhaps we can prevent the dismal fate Nostradamus has predicted (Guentte).

http://boisdarc.tamu-commerce.edu/www/w ... nostra.htm

Blase 03-15-2005 07:36 PM

if u repost this in the next 30 seconds after reading your crush will call you in the amount of years you are.

ex: if you are 18 they will call you in 18 minutes.

and if you dont you will have bad luck for the next 30 years.

dr nein 03-15-2005 07:37 PM

Hitler an Anti-Christ? I don't see that one.

Then again, anyone bad is considered an Anti-Christ to a Christian agenda so they may further themselves from them.

Coleman 03-15-2005 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blase
if u repost this in the next 30 seconds after reading your crush will call you in the amount of years you are.

ex: if you are 18 they will call you in 18 minutes.

and if you dont you will have bad luck for the next 30 years.

sounds like one of those AOL chain mail things. biggrin:

Blase 03-15-2005 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleman
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blase
if u repost this in the next 30 seconds after reading your crush will call you in the amount of years you are.

ex: if you are 18 they will call you in 18 minutes.

and if you dont you will have bad luck for the next 30 years.

sounds like one of those AOL chain mail things. biggrin:

Yea, I get so many of those that every day should be the worst day of my life.

Scorpion -]M15F1T[- 03-15-2005 07:43 PM

[quote=Trunks][quote="Scorpion -]M15F1T[-":4307d]One thing is weird there seems to be a lot of clues lying round. I wonder what ever happened to the thing the found in the sphinxs foot. They x rayed it one time and saw a box. They think its the ark or somethin but the egyptians wont let em go open it.[/quote]interesting... Do u have an article about it or something?[/quote:4307d]

Not strictly what i was on about but they mention the hiddend tunnels etc........

[url="http://www.crystalinks.com/caycepyramid.html"]http://www.crystalinks.com/caycepyramid.html[/url]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/vie ... ?tid=21483

i am desperate to find that articale now.
It was in a magazine iread a few years ago

Machette 03-15-2005 07:44 PM

Thanks ninty, was just going to post that.


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