Israel plans strike on Iranian nuclear plant
 

[url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1522978,00.html:cafff]Israel plans strike on Iranian nuclear plant[/url:cafff]

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[url=http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=476b621571be3259:cafff]Israel says Iran close to having a nuclear bomb[/url:cafff]

they did it before and they will do it again

lol... crazy people.

[quote="Jin-Roh":88500]lol... crazy people.[/quote:88500]

why is that crazy? they want to do a peremptive strike. if Iran gets nukes they will use them. If they use them they will have to use the rockets they already have, those rockets can and will reach Israel. They are in a damned if you do, damned if you dont position.

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":a49db][quote="Jin-Roh":a49db]lol... crazy people.[/quote:a49db]

why is that crazy? they want to do a peremptive strike. if Iran gets nukes they will use them. If they use them they will have to use the rockets they already have, those rockets can and will reach Israel. They are in a damned if you do, damned if you dont position.[/quote:a49db]

how do you know Iran has the intent to nuke Isreal? that would be suicide..

[quote=Maplegyver][quote="Sgt>Stackem":0e901]why is that crazy? they want to do a peremptive strike. if Iran gets nukes they will use them. If they use them they will have to use the rockets they already have, those rockets can and will reach Israel. They are in a damned if you do, damned if you dont position.[/quote:0e901]

how do you know Iran has the intent to nuke Isreal? that would be suicide..[/quote:0e901]
um. its my beliefe but it might just be me, that people in the middle east, suc has some from iran, have eben doing suicide bombings for years. I doubt they will care about all dieing at once if they take out all of Israel.
I love how the first line of the story says "ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans for a combined air and ground attack on targets in Iran " It sounds really secret to me. I mean I wouldnt expect it now at all.

If Israel does attack Iran I hope someone nukes Tel Aviv. Israel are the only nation in the middle east known to have Nukes, when will they disarm? If it's ok for Israel to have them why can't Iran?

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":19702]If Israel does attack Iran I hope someone nukes Tel Aviv. Israel are the only nation in the middle east known to have Nukes, when will they disarm? If it's ok for Israel to have them why can't Iran?[/quote:19702]only jews and christians can have nukes

[quote=1080jibber]only jews and christians can have nukes[/quote:2b01e]Hit the nail right on the head.

[quote=strvs]Hit the nail right on the head.[/quote:0f233]

then how come india and pakistan have nukes?

[quote=strvs]Hit the nail right on the head.[/quote:059a0]

[quote=rdeyes]then how come india and pakistan have nukes?[/quote:16e9f]
They haven't been "dealt" with yet, they can only bomb and pillage one country at a time, dude

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":d3eb3]If Israel does attack Iran I hope someone nukes Tel Aviv. Israel are the only nation in the middle east known to have Nukes, when will they disarm? If it's ok for Israel to have them why can't Iran?[/quote:d3eb3]because Israel is an ally of the US, in an area where the US doesnt have many allies. It is very valuable to the US, so the US would never do anything to jedardize its relations with Israel.

[quote=Trunks]because Israel is an ally of the US, in an area where the US doesnt have many allies. It is very valuable to the US, so the US would never do anything to jedardize its relations with Israel.[/quote:07016]
still dodging the point, why should people be killed in the name of disarmament, when the U.S. and its allys can freely build and keep these weapons? seems kind of backwards, dont you think?

Better off allying with Satan.

[quote=strvs]still dodging the point, why should people be killed in the name of disarmament, when the U.S. and its allys can freely build and keep these weapons? seems kind of backwards, dont you think?[/quote:e9c82]lol. of course. Im not agruing with that. Wat i am trying to oint out tho, is the US isnt interested in doing wtas "right," the only thing the US cares about is protecting its interests. And in case anybody is wondering, yes i am a US citizen.

[quote=Trunks]lol. of course. Im not agruing with that. Wat i am trying to oint out tho, is the US isnt interested in doing wtas "right," the only thing the US cares about is protecting its interests. And in case anybody is wondering, yes i am a US citizen.[/quote:91df1]
calmdown: I thought you were defending their actions, sorry.

[quote=strvs] calmdown: I thought you were defending their actions, sorry.[/quote:da0ea]np beer:

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":44975]Israel are the only nation in the middle east known to have Nukes, when will they disarm?[/quote:44975]

Israel is literally about the size of a postage stamp on a football field in terms of relative size to the middle east. OK maybe a little bigger. However the rest of the football field has made it very plain that they have a problem with that postage stamp on their field and wish to see it destroyed. Would you disarm if you were Israel?

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if i were isreal i would shut the fuck up

[quote=strvs]still dodging the point, why should people be killed in the name of disarmament, when the U.S. and its allys can freely build and keep these weapons? seems kind of backwards, dont you think?[/quote:aaa0c]

yes it kind of is. But dont you think it is better having democracy instead of dictatorship? In other words would you rather live somewhere else besides the U.S. but it has to be somewhere were different opinions are ignored or prosecuted. eek: I was going to develop these ideas but my mind went blank^^ anyways what i was going to say in a really short phrase is that americans just want to protect what they have. that s what i think so dont shoot me if you think im wrong or you know im wrong angel:

Israel does not call for the Arab nations to dissolve and their citizens to leave, last I checked.

Israel isn't burning Iranian or Iraqi flags and firing AK-47s in the air calling for "the streets of Israel to run red with the blood of the infidel Jews."

As was so ironically stated in another thread in regards to Iran discussing counterattacking countries which were acting with a degree of hostility toward it:

[quote:a82c2]You can't really blame them.[/quote:a82c2]

If you guys want to scream about double standards, check your own first. Damn hypocrites.

And before anyone tries to argue, here are some quotes from the Iran thread.

I guess from this one can understand that Muslims can make threats against people who are constantly hostile against them, however Jews may not.

You guys are a bunch of anti-semites, I guess. Especially since Israel has never, ever tried to do anything but exist. The only time they ever even invaded another country was during the Six Day War (that's the name, right?) and that was a counter-invasion of Lebanon. Lebanon had been the aggressor and invaded Israel first.

Iran, as you'll recall, has tried to overtake its neighbors several times in its past.

But without further adieu, here are plenty of quotes from your friendly neighborhood anti-Semites. Either that or they're all just flaming hypocrites:

i guess i hate jews then

OK, so if you were aware of the fact that the strongest miltary power in the world was planning to invade your country, you would take no action to prepare for this? It's all im saying. You have a good way of putting words in peoples mouths.

but ask yourself this question, why is the strongest military power planning to invade my country??

The US is not planning to invade Iran. The media would love to see this happen and likes to read into every military maneuver as an indication of a "build up" to an invasion. There was no invasion when the Iranian students took the US embassy personnel hostage in the 80's (when relations were much worse) and there will be no invasion now. calmdown:

Imperialism at it's finest. sleeping: What if bombs were going to be dropped on your town, where your family and friends all live? Would you still think this way?

Yea, but an israel-iranian war is very much a possibilty. And you know who'd be masterminding the campaign...

Israel would definately need some help. Who knows the most about occupying middle eastern countries? annoy:

We'll see what happens though. We can't jump to any conclusions...yet.

Pssst.

"Ukraine Says Missiles Smuggled to Iran"

[quote:dada8]The X-55 has a range of some 1,800 miles. Launched from Iran, it could reach Israel.[/quote:dada8]

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtm ... ID=7946499

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I don't see where I'm putting words in anyone's mouth. All I see is me quoting what people said in another thread in which they were defending the actions of a country that perceives a threat to its security.

Then, in this thread, those same people are calling Israel the bad guy who apparently can be blamed for taking similar actions against a real and proven - not perceived - threat that has existed for decades.

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Alright buddy, u just pissed me off now, cuz I am a jew. Now lets see here

-If one country is allowed to develop nukes, y shouldnt another country, after all, thats pretty much like descrimination against nations, which can be likened to dsicrimination in general, and isnt freedom one of the underlyingfoundations that America was founded on so y is it constantly crossing the lines it set for itself so long ago? If America doesnt want countries to develop nukes, then y doesnt it disarm?
-Sure Iranian's say sh-t like we hate america but do u blame them? After all, we started an unjustified war in Iraq, we never do anything just to help out, if we help out, its only because our interests are involved. We also have a history of prying into other countries affairs, and constantly "sticking our nose where it doesnt belong."
-Sure they hate jews. Big deal. I am a jew. I could care less what iranians think of my religion. They have certain beliefs, and we cant just start a war because we dont like thier beliefs. And if we are gonna invade Iran, we might as well invade 50% of islamic countries as well, becuz they hate jews too. Oh and when were done with that lets invade 90% of the world, after all, they hate America.
-One more thing. Russia is the one who is building a nuclear reactor in Iran. Y not attack them. I mean sure, they have state of the art weapons systems, the largest tank armada in the world, powerful navies and air force, an enormous and well trained army, and talented generals and Admirals, but hey, if tehyre the ones causing the problem then we should invade them right? Oh but wait, America only invades countries who it knows it will win against. oOo:

1. I'm sure you're a Jew rolleyes:

2. There is a SLIGHT difference between the levels of security on such things in places like the United States and China, as opposed to those in Iran. Iran is well-known for exporting government-sponsored terrorism. They cannot be trusted enough to not send a suicide-bomber packing with a thermonuclear suitcase bomb. Nor can they be trusted to insure that nuclear devices would not be stolen. Also, if America disarmed while its enemies maintained a nuclear arsenal, it would be seriously threated. Until all countries agree to unilateral disarmament, it can never happen. So why does America get to hold the cards? Basically, because we're like the nuclear bouncer. By maintaining the arsenal we maintain, no one will attack us or another country for fear of our retaliation. We already maintain the largest arsenal, so if we were in it to nuke half the world away we could've already done it.

3. That's a damn stupid theory for why Iran would wish death upon America, the West and its citizens. Iran HATES Iraq. I'm guessing you're probably in high school and don't even know the Iran/Iraq war ever even happened. And furthermore, why would we help another country if it wasn't in the interest of our citizens? That would just be stupid. Let's go pay billions of dollars to bolster China's security forces so they can focus their funds on bulking up their military. It doesn't make much sense, does it? And sticking our nose where it doesn't belong? If you heard a screaming baby in a burning building, would you rush in to save it? If you heard 500,000 people being murdered in a country, would you rush in to save them?

sorry, labeling people as anti semites becasue they dont agree with the decisions isreal is making, is putting words in other people mouthes. typical conservative youre with or against us behaviour. i dont know one person that hates the american people so you can stop bringing that up in discussions. and last time a checked we were discussing Isreal not The Usa.

it comes down to a simple point iran and north korea shouldnt have nukes simply because they arent truthful about what their nuclear programs are being used for and they wont let it be monitored

i would rather have an evil country with nukes that was open to inspection. Iran cant do anything to stop israel just like iraq couldnt anything to stop america.

ha. u make me laugh. I know all about the iran/iraq war, how america gave iraq weapons becuz of their stance, an enemy of our enemy is our friend. Didnt work out for the US tho now did it. And wat makes the US the international police man huh? Seems to me that should be the job for the UN, not a single country. And Iran might not mind America taking out/invading Iraq, but wat they do hate is the attitude of america. That attitude that lead us to defy the UN, to start an unjustified war. The attitude that says, we are big bad america, mess with us, and well, look at Iraq, thatll tell u all u need to know. And for some reason u never responded to wat i said abouyt russia. I wonder y. rolleyes: BtW, let me tell u something. America could care less if 500k people died, as long as it didnt endanger american interests. In ww2, america knew danm well that jews were being killed by the millions, and yet if they could have avoided the war completely the would have. They only joined in the war after japan attacked pearl harbor, and even then they only declrared war on japan. Only after the germans declared war on America, did the US respond witb its own declration of war.
BTW, oh yea, im some 9th grade christian kid.(sarcasm) oOo:

Russia only provided the necessary equipment for building a nuclear power plant, they didn't drive in with a bmp waving the russian flag and decided to build a nuclear power plant. I think it was a private company. So why even worry about them?

Russia also said that they'd try to get as much nuclear waste back from the Iranians as possible to prevent the production of a nuclear bomb.

So why even ask that type of question?

u seem to be missing my point. Do i want a war with russia? of course not. Im russian, i have family in russia, etc. However, number one, it is not a private compnay. Number 2, I am trying to prove that America only invades weaker countries. And what russians say, well lets just say, if u were in their situation u would say the same thing. "sure well try to get as much of it back as we can. ;)" Bull Sh-t. Just like russia and America plan to go from about 13k nukes each to 2k each. Pure BS.