Another Domino
 

Another domino for democracy has fallen. The president in Kyrgyz has resigned, and the people will hold elections in the fall. I wonder which country is next?

I hope the domino effect smacks you in the ass.

what? why?

WTF is Kyrgyz?

Do you even know what you’re talking about?

This was the people of Kyrgyzstan’s decision. This is not “democracy on the march”, this is a country where the people are taking responsibility for their own government.

Does it matter if the people wanted a communist, socialist or democratic government? I don’t see why it should. It is their country after all.

your missing the whole point

So please explain it to me...

The whole domino thing is based on the fact that people are tired of controlling governments; governments that dont listen to the people.

the falling dominos refers to Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebannon. Other countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia are talking of election becuase they are scared of being overthrown.

Doesnt the overthrow of the governement Kyrgyzstan reflect this "domino effect"? Do you think any credit belongs to Bush? Ofcourse the Liberals will say no, but nothing would have happened with Kerry--he is a push over.

But in afghanistan and Iraq the US overthrew the government for them. The people didn't do it.

And in lebanon, 500,000 people protested in the streets in support of Syria.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005 ... yria_x.htm

And to your edited point, yes, Bush overthrew 2 governments no to mention Haiti.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinio ... &cset=true

President Bush caused the tsunami too

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":eed56]President Bush caused the tsunami too[/quote:eed56]

Yeah, I read about that. eek:

im not disagreeing with you, and you dont need to throw those quotes at people. ANYONE can find one quote to back up their ideas.

I have never doubted you being right-I just disagree with you. (ninty9)
In fact, you are politically smarter than most, but you seem to always want to prove people wrong by those damn quotes. Do you think that anyone who has a different viewpoint than yours is wrong?
Like I said, anyone can quote something to back up their ideas.

the domino effect is bullshyt, look at Vietnam

Their articles. I use articles to back up the points I make. If I don't use articles, everyone would tell me to shut up.

Anti-Syrians outdo Hizbullah in street protests
http://www.guardian.co.uk/syria/story/0 ... 23,00.html

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":ac9a3]the domino effect is bullshyt, look at Vietnam[/quote:ac9a3]

What, you must have containment and domino theory mixed up. Vietnam was completely different. It was the US helping free people protect themselves from spread communism. Containment.
People really dont understand Vietnam, and always try to compare EVERY war to Vietnam-the same people who call others ignorant becuase of supporting a war, alot of times, are the same people who just listen to one side as well.

Domino is helping people to OVERTHROW dictators, and establish a new gvt.

And back to my original point- its not important to use quotes to back up statements--anyone can find any quote to back up what they believe. People will just take your word for it (at least I would) unless its unbelievable.

What Fluffy is talking about was the theory that if one country fell to communism that others around it would as well. If Vietnam fell, then Cambodia and Laos would too and eventually all of southeast Asia. However, the domino effect can be used to describe the spread of democracy as well, but that is not its exclusive use.

The Containment strategy that you are talking about was a policy created to stop the Soviet Union's expansion of influence through spreading communism to non-communist countries.

So essentially you are both correct.


And if ninty9 doesn't use something to back up his post, one of you would demand that he proves it. So if he includes something to backup his view in the post, that would save time. Not everyone just takes someones word for something, and since he is pretty much the only one that has a view contrary to what most of the people post here, he would have to defend himself more often.

ok--but chango, did you ever visit the coldwarflashpoint forums?

and another one..Bhutan


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... itution_dc

No, why?

It is true...if people want a certain government they should get it...regardless if it isn't democratic...

That is oddly enough the basic idea behind democracy, The people choice to rule, or appoint leaders.

[quote=negative]What, you must have containment and domino theory mixed up. Vietnam was completely different. It was the US helping free people protect themselves from spread communism. Containment.
People really dont understand Vietnam, and always try to compare EVERY war to Vietnam-the same people who call others ignorant becuase of supporting a war, alot of times, are the same people who just listen to one side as well.

Domino is helping people to OVERTHROW dictators, and establish a new gvt.

And back to my original point- its not important to use quotes to back up statements--anyone can find any quote to back up what they believe. People will just take your word for it (at least I would) unless its unbelievable.[/quote:28cf4]


O.K.

[quote:28cf4]‘I’ve got a study being made now by the experts… whether Malaysia will necessarily go and India’ll go and how much it’ll hurt our prestige if we just get out and let some conference fail or something… [/quote:28cf4]

A telephone conference between President Johnson & his political mentor, Richard Russel on May 27, 1964.

The Cold War, p218, Jussi M. Hanhimaki And Odd Arne Westad, Oxford. 2003

[quote:28cf4]To be sure, Laos and Cambodia went communist, but the other dominoes, instead of falling, became very wealthy.[/quote:28cf4]

Review Essays, Choosing Tragedy in Vietnam, Francis J. Gavin, 2001


[quote:28cf4]BASIC COUNTERINSURGENCY PLAN FOR VIET-NAM

d. Assumptions:

7) That the Viet Cong, in coordination with the communist parties of Laos and Cambodia, will continue to build up a maximum effort against the Republic of Viet-Nam. The April '61 elections constitute particularly critical period. [/quote:28cf4]

FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES
1961-1963, Volume I
Vietnam, 1961
Department of State
Washington, DC
I. Visit of General Edward G. Lansdale to Vietnam
January 2-14, 1961

1. Paper Prepared by the Country Team Staff Committee/1/

Saigon, [January 4, 1961.]


[quote:28cf4]Domino is helping people to OVERTHROW dictators, and establish a new gvt.
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nein, the domino theory here is whether the rest of South East Asia would follow Vietnam on the road to communism, - the assumption that; if one country fell to communism the rest would follow.

shyt double post