The 2000's suck.
 

I'm sure you all know this already, and I'm sure you've all thought about this.. But the modern day sucks. I just take a look back to the forties and fifties, and I think "Damn, they've got it good."

They might not have had technology, and they might not have had all the cures for diseases, but just think; No threat of heavy nuclear activity, no AIDS, considerably less crime, and none of this modern music. Given, most is OK, but 95% of music is no longer hear-felt expression of emotion, it's one big show-boat. Air pollution was hardly near the issue that we have now. I would literally, possibly kill, to grow up in the 30's - 50's.

The economy wasn't in the dumps, (Even considering the depression), and the world was a considerably wonderful place to live in. Given, missing out on all this modern technology would kill me, it would do more good than bad. With less people sitting at home watching HDTV or sitting on the computer 8 hours a day, America wouldn't be full of obese morons.

What do you fellas think about this?

I think this'll be moved to the History section...

1980s > 2000s

No threat of nuclear activity? Have you not heard of the cold war?

The ONLY time a nuclear weapon has been used with hostile intent was in the 40s.

Touche'

30s-50s Yeah, the Great Depression, rationing, World War II, dust bowl, Cold War, an etc were awesome!

PS: Polio was wicked sweet until that ass made a vaccination for it.


I'll like the age when we start respecting people for their intellegence and creativity, not their money and looks. Also it will give that time bonus points if by then they stop falling prey to their own weakeness and start thinking for themselves.

....not to mention, segregation, mccarthyism, and other paranoia fueled hatred of the 50s.

I think it's pretty hard to compare decades seeing as they're all pretty fucked up in their own, different ways. It's even harder if you haven't lived through them.

Yea, i think you got the idea of how good the 50s were, but the 30s were probably one of the worst decades in US history with the depression.

Change the poll to just say 50's or today

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Before I scrolled down and saw the other peoples post, I thought WTF. Like Spike and Tripper said, WW2, Great Depression ect. WTF are you thinking?

i really liked the social aspects (obviously not counting the racism and stuff) of the 40's alot better than today. I'm really conservative when it comes to social issues mostly because I hate the way society is changing (in my opinion, for the worse). This is only mentioning one point out of many; respect as been lost in society today. Kids talking back to their teachers, parents, and other adult figures...hell, many disrespect complete strangers without it even phasing them.


That is a very stereotypical statement, I know. So don't go ramming your cocks up my ass with comments to combat me. My ass is just healing fro....... biggrin:

Actually, life now is pretty awesome. Sorry you feel so depressed about what decade you live in, well not really.

Maybe it's the country/state/city you live in, and it's not times fault?

yea get off ur comp and go do something.

"we're the middle children of history man, no purpose..."

swing dancing, neo nazis, bleh

I agree with him to a point. I grew up in the 60s and 70s. Classic cars you could tell apart from each other( i owned a 69 corvette,68 camaro, gto, and a 57 chevy and a custom 54 ford pickup) fast cars and faster women!!, drive in movies( showing as many as 5 movies back to back), Knowing all the neighbors on the block, never having to lock your doors, being able to go to sleep with the windows open.

It was a different time for sure compared to now. Was it better? It was a hell of a lot different. Ill say that much.

Id have to say the best part was.....i wasnt 50

2000s are just fine. Interweb, sexually liberated women, higher wages, entertainment, hot water and electricity thats dependable. what more could you want. the more time that goes by the better, you guys can keep the past, im glad i am where i am.

This stuff tends to change upon location though. I mean, I sleep fine with my windows open and I quite often leave doors unlocked around the house, car etc.....

However, I wouldn't do the same in South Auckland.

....I'm with Mad on this though - I love the now, it's a good time. 18 drinking age, high-speed internet, porn whenever I want, weed whenever I want, liquor whenever I want. Great parties, good music, hot girls.

yea, and fight the wars. lol

The world will end up like the one you see in Minority Report in my opinion but for now, things are ok to me. Every decade has good and bad things, the thing is, we adapt to these things some way or other. There'll always be aspects you hate and love but seeing we don't live forever, best make the most of it all.


This isn't really related apart from the faces are from different eras but I've been looking at all these celebrity-style mug-shots from the past, pretty funny some of them...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html the_finger:

the fifties suck... most racist decade ever... no civil rights and people like elvis and dick clark were getting paid to steal culture...

Things are ok personally for me now, but in the future, I don't think it will be so rosy. All these gadgets that make our lives better keep us locked away. I believe in our lifetimes, we'll see a major energy crisis followed by massive economic collapse around the world. So if that happens, i'd probably rather live in the 60 etc. when gas was abundant and cheap, and everyone could live peacefully in the suburbs.

isn't most of the world suffering from "massive economic collapse" on a daily basis?...

To an extent. My comments were directed more toward the western world though.

India and China are booming right now. North America is slowing down but the economies are still growing. We'll probably see a recession pretty soon, but what i'm talking about is economic collapse for the US dollar based on overwhelming debt and an energy crisis. We see many countries have already moved to using the Euro instead of the dollar, and I would exepect this to continue as the US dollar keeps sinking.

Perhaps i'm just being pessimistic.

is the glass half empty or half full, its all your take on things. Ilike it right now. granted i got away with alot more than todays kids do and I had a hell of alot of fun doing it. There is an old saying, the more things change the more they stay the same
Way back when.....people thought the jitterbug was the end of civilization, then it was Elvis, then Black Sabbath now Marlyin Manson. Its all the same just a different date

lol go look in your moms year books all the girls are ugly

note: most music was much more insidious propoganda back then. and what the fuck is so heartfelt about frank sinatra?

ed: ed: ed: ed: ed: ed: mad: mad: mad:

Dude..... rolleyes:

90s - current day

fuck living during the great depression, world war 2 and the start of the cold war.

Maybe if you said 60s-70s I may of reconsidered my decision.

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Yes. Agreed beyond words. I'm going through a little 60's phase..I'm listening to all the stuff my dad listened to when he was a hippy hipster, and it just always rings in my mind how much more talented those musical artists were compared to the fuckers and screamers we've got today.

True.

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[quote="Sgt. Duffy":67d33]Yes. Agreed beyond words. I'm going through a little 60's phase..I'm listening to all the stuff my dad listened to when he was a hippy hipster, and it just always rings in my mind how much more talented those musical artists were compared to the fuckers and screamers we've got today.[/quote:67d33]

You two don't know shit. I'm guessing it's because you're both like 12 and haven't even had a chance to explore any music scenes. Hell, you're not even old enough to go to most concerts. (ROFL).

he is right, alot (not all) bands of today cant even play instruments. Drummers in a box for the back beat. Prerecorded tracks it is a joke. How many rappers know what a guitar pick is or a drum stick

You guys don't know what you're talking about. You're judging todays music by what you see on TV. Can't do that nowadays. It's the music industry that has changed, not the musicians.

You just gotta know where to look, there are plenty of good musicians out there. Youth is where the money is for the industry today and sadly the youth don't give a shit about skilled musicians. Doesn't mean all musicians just shut down and give up making music altogether. Plant yourself right in the middle of any "scene" and you'll see plenty of bands/artists that are VERY skilled at what they do.

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":20397] How many rappers know what a guitar pick is or a drum stick[/quote:20397]

The Roots

Crown City Rockers

Will.I.Am

Ozomatli

Open Souls

....All play hiphop with live instruments.

But regardless, most hiphop artists/rappers don't use instruments simply because you can't get the right sound they're looking for. To each his own, doesn't mean all rock bands are more skilled because they play instruments, they just do it differently.

Digging for samples off of old 78s is a a pretty gruelling task compared to putting together a few riffs on a guitar anyways.

I'm sure you've all heard me go on and on about this shit over and over again.....But I guess you'd rather just ignore me or maybe you just flat out think I'm lying. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

Trip, I understand where you're coming from. I do acknowledge that many artists and groups are very good at what they do, but like you said, to each his own. Acknowleding someone's skill and enjoying listening to it are two completely different things, though.

Sure but to write off a whole decade for being unskilled at music is fucking dumb.

lol

I never said modern musicians were unskilled.

''And none of this modern music,'' Is a reflection of my personal opinion on the quality of modern music. Skilfully made or not, if I'm going to listen to music, it's all about whether I like it or not.

Okay somehow I've gotten into two debates.

For you, I assign: The "Music is still good in this decade, you just need to nowhere to look" argument that I was posting about.

For stackem: The same, but also my skill argument was originally directed towards his post. oOo:

I never said all bands I said most bands. I think your statement

"Digging for samples off of old 78s is a a pretty gruelling task compared to putting together a few riffs on a guitar anyways. "

is an absolute joke, your saying picking and chosing other peoples riffs and bits of songs is harder than creating them in the frist place. That is just a joke. to create music (no matter what genre) is a tough thing to do. Stealing samples is easy. Yes I said stealing samples. Thats what they do because they dont have the talent to create things themselves

I like alot fo stuff from a bunch of different eras and there is no era disregarded. Their is good shit in every decade, just got to know how to look. There is a bunch of shit artists are trying these days that artists back then had no idea of and it has evolved.

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":61b58]I never said all bands I said most bands. I think your statement

"Digging for samples off of old 78s is a a pretty gruelling task compared to putting together a few riffs on a guitar anyways. "

is an absolute joke, your saying picking and chosing other peoples riffs and bits of songs is harder than creating them in the frist place. That is just a joke. to create music (no matter what genre) is a tough thing to do. Stealing samples is easy. Yes I said stealing samples. Thats what they do because they dont have the talent to create things themselves[/quote:61b58]

How many people do you know that can play pretty much every instrument on the planet?
Because that's what would be required if these guys had to play every instrument to make their beats. That's what hiphop is, making music without being taught. That's how it started in the ghetto first - Kids that couldn't make music by any other means found a way to put songs together without the use of instruments they had no access to, they created a whole new sound.

You've obviously never tried cutting and looping small pieces of audio out of vinyl and making it flow flawlessley. It's damn near impossible to do, and takes ALOT of fine tuning and practise.....and what I meant was that it's a long and hard task and requires different abilities than learning an instrument, it's a different ball game - But that doesn't mean it's not fucking hard and strenuous - That was the point I was trying to make, I didn't intend for it to come out like it was a direct comparison, because obviously it is fucking hard learning a guitar, it's just a different type of hard.

You could call using samples of other peoples instruments stealing, but I could just as easily call the same for someone using guitar coords. They've stood on the shoulders of giants the same way, everything has been played on the giutar so no single coord is original. It's all about the arrangement of them to get originality. Same thing when you're digging for samples. It's just a different way of doing things.