New Gaming Rig
 

So hey, I am in the market for a new gaming rig thats under $1,300, I have come up with this one, let me know how it sounds to you guys and how well it will fare against the newest and upcoming games. Suggestions welcomed!


Meter Display ( Thermal Temperature LCD Display Blue )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None )
Case ( Raidmax Samurai-908 Gaming Case w/420W Power Supply Titanium )
Case Lighting ( Neon Light Blue )
Power Supply ( Standard Case Power Supply )
Processor ( [Socket-775] Intel® Pentium-4 Processor 560 [3.6GHz, 1MB Cache, 800MHz FSB, HT Ready] )
Operation System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink + 2 Extra Case Fans )
Motherboard ( [DDR2] Abit AA8-DuraMax i925 Chipset w/LAN, 7.1 Sound, IEEE-1394, USB 2.0 PCI-E Motherboard )
Case Round Cable ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower )
USB Port ( Build-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Memory ( 256MB DDR-400 PC3200 Memory Module )
Video Card ( [PCI-Express 16x] Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
IEEE-1394 Fire Wire Card ( None )
USB Flash Drive ( None )
Hard Drive ( 80 GB HARD DRIVE [S-ATA] Seagate 80 GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Hard Drive )
2nd Hard Drive ( None )
MP3 Player ( None )
Raid Controller ( None )
TV Tuner ( None )
Raid Configuration ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
CD/DVD Drive ( None )
Power Protection ( None )
Headset ( None )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Blue )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Printer ( None )
Speaker System ( None )
Printer Cable ( None )
Fax Modem ( None )
Network Card ( 10/100 Network Onboard )
Floppy Drive ( Mitsumi 1.44 MB Internal Floppy Drive Blue )
Monitor ( None )
Keyboard ( None )
Mouse ( None )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )


All (shipping + tax) for: $1,214.50


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Memory ( 256MB DDR-400 PC3200 Memory Module )


get at least 512mb...

yeah man 256 ram wont cut it seeing how you have a 3.6 cpu i say get at least a gig of ram

yup 512mb ram is MINIMUM for your system, so see any kind of performance definately look at 512 - 1gb.

Get a gig of RAM.
Get Athlon64.
Obviously a new motherboard.
Don't get the ugly POS Raidmax case.
And DEFINITELY get rid of the terrbile Raidmax power supply. That's just asking to blow up your hardware.
Get new CPU cooler.

It looks like your buying it pre-built from some shitty site. So build your own.

l33t sn1p3r

more ram, different cpu, preferably a athlon 64. pretty much what akuma said

Ok now to reply lol.

Thanks for the comments, the thing is I am buying a rig that I can upgrade with...so the 256 is ONLY a temp solution for about a month, then I will upgrade to at least a gig, the thing is, I am limited on money at this point in time, so getting a butt load of memory is senseless seeing as I can upgrade that part of the PC at a lower cost then buying a new CPU or vid card would. As far as the mobo, its a nice one, I allready own a Custom made (and yes built myself) that has an ABit IS7-G and its GREAT, I love abit and I will stick with them. About the case, It appeals to my taste and I enjoy it, wont change that. The PSU will prolly be changed at a later date, not too concerned with it, so long as it adequately supplies power where power is needed without the cost of high heat. Reason why I am getting a prebuilt one, akuma, is because the cost of the hardware drops HARDCORE when you do so, if I were to buy the parts and build it myself, it would cost MUCH MUCH more. This way I get discounts (major ones) on the parts I need to be discounted. I never liked AMD, so I will NEVER go with one, Nothing but Intel and Nvidia. ;) But like I said, I am open to suggestions, akuma, if you think there is a better way to build thid (using Intel and Nvidia) lemme know, I am open to it.

Keep in mind guys this rig was compiled with the mindset that I will get a decent one to begin with, then upgrade as I get paid ;). Thanks for input and look forward to more. And keep in mind I am on a $1,300 budget.


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P.S. How well (be honest) do you guys feel that this rig will run current and upcoming games such as Doom III, Farcry, Of course Battelfield 2, and F.E.A.R.?



P.S.S. I also forgot, guys anyone know (can explain) which is better/efficient to have for gaming processor wise... 1066 FSB or 64Bit or Higher Cache?

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[quote="Sniped Ur Azz":cc184]Ok now to reply lol.

Thanks for the comments, the thing is I am buying a rig that I can upgrade with...so the 256 is ONLY a temp solution for about a month, then I will upgrade to at least a gig, the thing is, I am limited on money at this point in time, so getting a butt load of memory is senseless seeing as I can upgrade that part of the PC at a lower cost then buying a new CPU or vid card would. As far as the mobo, its a nice one, I allready own a Custom made (and yes built myself) that has an ABit IS7-G and its GREAT, I love abit and I will stick with them. About the case, It appeals to my taste and I enjoy it, wont change that. The PSU will prolly be changed at a later date, not too concerned with it, so long as it adequately supplies power where power is needed without the cost of high heat. Reason why I am getting a prebuilt one, akuma, is because the cost of the hardware drops HARDCORE when you do so, if I were to buy the parts and build it myself, it would cost MUCH MUCH more. This way I get discounts (major ones) on the parts I need to be discounted. I never liked AMD, so I will NEVER go with one, Nothing but Intel and Nvidia. ;) But like I said, I am open to suggestions, akuma, if you think there is a better way to build thid (using Intel and Nvidia) lemme know, I am open to it.

Keep in mind guys this rig was compiled with the mindset that I will get a decent one to begin with, then upgrade as I get paid ;). Thanks for input and look forward to more. And keep in mind I am on a $1,300 budget.


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P.S. How well (be honest) do you guys feel that this rig will run current and upcoming games such as Doom III, Farcry, Of course Battelfield 2, and F.E.A.R.?



P.S.S. I also forgot, guys anyone know (can explain) which is better/efficient to have for gaming processor wise... 1066 FSB or 64Bit or Higher Cache?[/quote:cc184]

dude first of all, you want a gaming rig correct? you will see much better gamig performance with an AMD, intel is not as good for gaming. trust me, i own both. you will need more than 256mb of ram, even if you iwll upgrade it at a later time it will piss you off as soon as you get it because everything will load incredibley slow, your fps will drop incredibley low too. and buying individual parts is in fact considerably cheaper then having it prebuilt. whoever told you getting it from a company is cheaper is bullshit.

i know i have an alienware, and it was more expensive then a custom built one, but im not complaining. just saying that you are wrong in your statement. i hope you will reconsider some of the statements you said, as you will be better off with quite a few changes.

All those games will run like a slide show presentation of shit with only 256 mb of ram....seriously You can buy a 512 mb stick of ram for like 40-50 bucks after rebate from any retail location.

that is 100% true. probably about a year ago, i was getting some computer problems so i tried to take out the memory sticks and see if that was the problem. i ended up taking it all out except one stick of 256. i tried to play COD with that, and from getting like 100-300FPS in that game with all settings + AA and AF at maximum, it dropped down to like 20-30. if you do anything from what i said in my previous post, upgrade your ram and downgrade something else

lol, urm, I am not trying to argue with you, but it is not cheaper...and by FAR its not cheaper....I do my research and I checked the sites, to get the same EXACT parts online....at newegg.com for ex....it comes out MORE expensive, you save money on the parts buying it prebuilt because of the fact that the companies have contracts and deals in which they can sell their product at a MUCH lower cost because they know that they will sell more that way. Lets use Dell for ex (and No I am not getting one) on their XPS Gen4, you can get the Intel P4 3.7GHz 1066 FSB Extreme Edition Processor for about $300-400 less then if u were to buy it...ANYWHERE else...why is that? Its because Intel knows FULL well that in doing this, their sells will go WAY the hell up. The reason why you believe otherwise is because you GOT an Alienware, they are too proud of their systems, and you pay for the name. Not saying that the rigs are not awesome, but they over-charge you like HELL! I looked at them as well, I also looked into Falcons, and others....the fact of the matter is, you HAVE to shop around to find the best deals. I would like someone to go right ahead and show me a cheaper rig (that you buy the parts and build yourself) with the same specs as I have shown above (sure you can even add the 512, but its STILL gonna be more expensive, ALOT more). As far as the AMD, I just wont do it man, sorry, I love intel and where they are going with it....plus all the things I have read and experienced tell and show me that Intel is the Leader of the pack, AMD is good and cheap and easy to overclock. Only diff. And actually, when I get my new PC, I will be taking the 512 of PC3200 outta my current rig and place into the new one making 768MB. Only thing is, it wont be Dual Channel like it is now.

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Ps. did you have an answer for any of those questions in my other PS? ^^

stop ending your posts with

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buying a prebuilt is fine...just wait 2 more weeks untill you get paid again and spend 1400 and get more ram

simple as that

Well, I just got done putting the whole system together on http://www.newegg.com and I used the same brand same parts and all, and it comes out to $1,367.33 with shipping. That includes 1 gig (2x 512 DDR2 PC4200) Ram. I will look into it some more, but, thanks for the info guys and too bad some people here seem to be getting offended... it was just a simple set of questions.

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P.S. and no, I will not stop ending my posts with that

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P.S. and no, I will not stop ending my posts with that[/quote:c7042]

Then you must die

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Ok ok, fine, I am going to go with the either a gig or 512 of ram....and you guys said to downgrade something...well what else can I downgrade? that wont fuck me in the end?

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CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Blue )

...u are kidding right? That was only $20 cause its a special...


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P.S. and no, I will not stop ending my posts with that[/quote:12859]lol

sniped ur azz LOLlosolaoslollol

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I didn't read anything that was posted here.

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...u are kidding right? That was only $20 cause its a special...


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how was i supposed to know it was only $20?? if you want a good gaming system ditch this and spend the other $20 on RAM since you are on a limited budget. since your on a limited budget, $20 shouldnt be just throwen away.

6600gt, meh. downgrade the processor a bit and with that cash grab a 6800

Ok I took everyones comments into deep consideration. I also had to do some research to see if the MoBo I was getting would indeed support 1066 FSB...well after I looked around with google for a bit, I found out that it does NOT support 1066FSB. So I said, hell if I am not getting the MAIN feature that I want, I am getting ass raped with the memory, and I am losing alot of self respect cause I am paying someone to have the joy I should...and that is build it MYSELF, I might as well go and buy and build one!! Ok, so with that being said, I took my happy ass over to http://www.newegg.com and built the following, I will be saving just a 4th check and I will get this beast. Lemme know how it sounds to you guys now?



RAIDMAX SAMURAI ATX-901WBP Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W Power Supply

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ABIT Fatal1ty AA8XE Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 925XE ATX Intel Motherboard (supports 1066FSB)

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Intel Pentium 4 3.6 GHz 800MHz FSB LGA 775 Processor Model 1MB L2 Cache

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1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) System Memory

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PNY Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card
(Core = 500 MHz / RAM = 1000 MHz)

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Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 6Y080M0 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive

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SONY MPF920 Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive

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Thermaltake HardCano 12 HDD Cooler and LCD Heat Monitor

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ASUS DRW-1608P BLACK Black IDE DVD Burner (DVD-R +- / DVD-RW +-) (Double Layer)

And gonna add a light of course...gots to...but thats bout it. It comes to a grand total of:

$1,429.33 (with shipping and taxes)



So lemme know how this one sounds ;)

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PLEASE get rid of the Raidmax case. You need a good power supply. Raidmax PSUs have a history of exploding and taking your whole system with it. You need OCZ, Fortron/Sparkle, Antec, or Enermax.
You should really go Athlon64... It's cheaper and has better gaming performance.
Also you don't need that hard drive cooler thing... Total waste of money.

[url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103502:281f0]Athlon64 3200+[/url:281f0] - $190
[url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517:281f0]Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe[/url:281f0] - $177
[url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145450:281f0]Corsair XMS PC3200 2x512mb[/url:281f0] - $135
[url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130214:281f0]eVGA 6600GT PCIe[/url:281f0] - $177
[url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148039:281f0]Seagate 120gb SATA hard drive[/url:281f0] - $94
[url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152035:281f0]NEC ND-3520A Dual Layer DVD+-RW[/url:281f0] - $50
[url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119035:281f0]Cooler Master Praetorian case[/url:281f0] - $108
[url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104152:281f0]OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU[/url:281f0] - $125

Total: $1056

That's plenty to upgrade your video card or CPU to a better card.
I suggest [url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102509:281f0]Radeon X800XL PCIe[/url:281f0] - $285 or [url=http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130215:281f0]eVGA 6800GT PCIe[/url:281f0] - $379.

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buy akumas shit and quit writing your name at the end of your posts or I will fucking kill you and use your $1300 on loose women and cocaine.

Thanks.

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why dont you like AMDs? amd is better dude hands down...

rofl machet

i unno man, its just like....why dont you like intel? and I know your gonna just say "cause amd is better"....well that may be so for the time being. But you should know (as do ALL gamers) that technology changes, and there is NEVER a #1 company, for CPU's, GPU's, Etc....I mean it always evolves. So, you are pretty much forced to choose a side...I chose Intel, never had any good experiences with AMD, always have with Intel, so thats just me man. As I am sure there is a good reason why you choose AMD instead of Intel. Not going to trash amd, or ATI, I am sure they are both great! ...they just not for me. Its intel and nvidia. ;) sorry.




HAHAHAHAH ROFLMAO HAHAHAHA damn dude thats fucking FUNNY! HAHAHAHAHA Nice one man. oOo:

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[quote="Sniped Ur Azz":ec046]i unno man, its just like....why dont you like intel? and I know your gonna just say "cause amd is better"....well that may be so for the time being. But you should know (as do ALL gamers) that technology changes, and there is NEVER a #1 company, for CPU's, GPU's, Etc....I mean it always evolves. So, you are pretty much forced to choose a side...I chose Intel, never had any good experiences with AMD, always have with Intel, so thats just me man. As I am sure there is a good reason why you choose AMD instead of Intel. Not going to trash amd, or ATI, I am sure they are both great! ...they just not for me. Its intel and nvidia. ;) sorry.[/quote:ec046]

But there are people on this forum that know their stuff! If they say AMD is better for gaming - they are not telling lies just to try and get someone to choose their favourite cpu manufacturer. It means that they actually work in the industry and know what they are talking about. Some of these guys have YEARS of knowledge and experience. Listen to them.

[quote=m1ck97][quote="Sniped Ur Azz":f96f7]i unno man, its just like....why dont you like intel? and I know your gonna just say "cause amd is better"....well that may be so for the time being. But you should know (as do ALL gamers) that technology changes, and there is NEVER a #1 company, for CPU's, GPU's, Etc....I mean it always evolves. So, you are pretty much forced to choose a side...I chose Intel, never had any good experiences with AMD, always have with Intel, so thats just me man. As I am sure there is a good reason why you choose AMD instead of Intel. Not going to trash amd, or ATI, I am sure they are both great! ...they just not for me. Its intel and nvidia. ;) sorry.[/quote]

But there are people on this forum that know their stuff! If they say AMD is better for gaming - they are not telling lies just to try and get someone to choose their favourite cpu manufacturer. It means that they actually work in the industry and know what they are talking about. Some of these guys have YEARS of knowledge and experience. Listen to them.[/quote:f96f7]

How can you possibly say that? What you just wrote makes no sense. If someone here (such as akuma) is strong for AMD, he will go for amd, he wont ever say that Intel is better....and likewise. I wont ever say AMD is better cause I like Intel. Also, what makes you think that just because they have some kind of experience, that makes THEM correct, and myself incorrect? Sure I listen to them, but I wont just get an AMD cause they have "YEARS of experience", what leads you to believe that I dont have the same if not MORE amount of experience as they do? I asked for advice, but if I am not going to choose AMD or ATI, why keep at it? Its a choice I made. Its like saying that if a rep from AMD and a rep from Intel came in here to say which is better, you allready know the outcome from the two. One is strong for one, and the other is strong for the other. If you wanted the benchmarks, and you wanted the comparisons, sure go to [url="http://www.tomshardware.com"]http://www.tomshardware.com[/url] and look it up. You will see that AMD is on top...AT THE MOMENT, but thats how it is....its an AT THE MOMENT kind of thing when you deal with technology, its ever-changing. So what it all comes down to is, I like Intel and Nvidia, you guys seem strong for AMD and ATI, thats fine...not trying to force my ways on anyone, was only asking for advice on how to better build a Intel and Nvidia based gaming rig, nothing more. And yes I am a hard ass and I will not change my preferences towards ATI and AMD.

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I'll agree with you about exchange of performance crowns. But by your resonsing, even if AMD was 4x faster and half as expensive as Intel's top you still wouldn't buy it because Intel could come back? You're really missing out if you buy like that. ATI and Nvidia are pretty much tied so it's not a big deal. But there is no reason what so ever to NOT go with AMD. If you have any love for money at all you would go with AMD. Everyone knows Intel's and AMDs future roadmaps and I really don't think that Intel will take the gaming performance crown back for a very long time. Before you dismiss me as an AMD fanboy, my current system is the only AMD system I've ever had.