Airsoft AEG selection.
 

After a recent event involving my paintball group, basically all of them bitching out. I've decided to move into the realm of airsoft, since while at the paintball shop i found out they did airsoft as well, including a large group that plays every other weekend.

They have a nice ICS m4 at the shop, similar if not exactally the same as this [url=http://www.precisionairsoft.com/item680.htm:688db]one[/url:688db]. Pretty sure its exactally the same.

Then theres the [url=http://www.precisionairsoft.com/item675.htm:688db]classic army[/url:688db] ones that seem just as nice. Then the[url=http://www.precisionairsoft.com/item5.htm:688db]Tokyo Marui[/url:688db]. The Tokyo's dont seem to be up to the quality of the other two.

I want a full metal, everything, basically. Im only looking at m4 style weapons. Im not to concerned about the cost. I want a nice high quality, top of the line, king of the hill, grand master, big kahuna, airsoft m4 AEG. Fit and finish are paramount. Right now the ICS seems to be that weapon, but i figured i would check the database (you) of airsofters around here.

Please provide links to any weapons you suggest.

Classic Army. Go for Classic Army.

If your ready to pay for it, theres heaps of places.

Found this on [url=http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store.html:1ac19]airsoftextreme.com[/url:1ac19]:

[img]http://www.airsoftextreme.com/images/enhancedcarbine.jpg[/img]

AE Max Enhanced Carbine $900


[img]http://www.airsoftextreme.com/images/m4ris.jpg[/img]

Tokyo Marui Carbine RIS $325


[img]http://www.airsoftextreme.com/images/yessir.jpg[/img]

AE Max YES S.I.R. $1200 (Add $200 and get it with full metal body)

What are the laws for airsoft in Canada? I have been thinking about getting a pistol or rifle.

I disagree, I'm know a guy who ran an online site selling airsoft, mostly to local guys. He wouldnt even warranty classic army's guns, they are simply unreliable. While they DO look nice, you will likely have lots of problems in the field with them. At all the events I've gone to (scenarios with 50+ guys, ex swat members, marines), 95% of them use Tokyo Marui. TM is simply the most reliable quality manufacturer out there. They are simple to upgrade with new motors, gears, springs, and bodies aswell. TM is definitly the industry standard as of now. Just dont get too caught up on how classic army looks nice, there are always metal body kits for TM guns.

Im actaully leaning towards the ICS. I talked to the guy who worked there who owns one himself. He said it was awesome out of the box, and its easy dissasembly/ internals swap were a nice feature.

[img]http://www.precisionairsoft.com/usrimage/cat58531.jpg[/img]

The guy said he bought an upgrade package and was shooting about 400 fps, upgraded his BB's and was down to 350 with good grouping. Plus the easy swap out ment if something happened to the internals set you could pop it open and just swap out, and your back in action.

I dont really feel like spending 250+ on a weapon to have to turn around and spend 200+ more on it to make it something that i enjoy. The upgraded internals arnt nessisary for the ICS but might be a down the road thing. Anyone have an opinion on it?

damn they make those things look super realistic

i dont know if i would want to get mobbed by a bunch of bbs, you guys are nuts. whats wrong with paintballs?

They're actually like little soft foam bb sized balls...

Paintballs are surprizingly painful depending on where your hit and by what. Airsoft is probably just as bad the only differance is that airsoft is a pin prick compaired to the slam you get with a paintball.

Airsoft also opens up better tactics based on the ballistics of the rounds fired. Airsoft rounds fly better for longer, there also harder to track when incoming.

Also there just plastic pellets, not foam.

The only problem i have with paintball is the operational cost. I could go play on a field and still have fun without my friends. The fact is it cost about $80 - $100 to play one outting. Paint cost me 80 this last time i bought it, then field fees. Not to mention that you need airtanks, and a place to refill those. With airsoft you run on batteries that can be recharged and last longer, and you can always have a backup one lying around for like 20 - 50 bucks. Where as a back up airtank will cost 150 - 200. On a field not a huge issue since they will have refills, but in the woods like i prefer to play, its an issue. The cost of airsoft ammo is also considerably cheaper. 2000 paintballs cost anywhere from 60 - 100 bucks, where as you can get 5000 bb's for like 20 - 30.

bah, better go with TM

Classic Army mags are the suckiest mags i ever seen

what do you do with them? biggrin:

Seriously... is it a sport just like paintballing?

Ya you can play Airsoft like paintball. Except you can't use the gas guns, or metal bb's.

I had a CA M4 a couple years back. The quality was pretty nice, however, it broke. The first day I had it the safety broke and after awhile it just stopped firing completely. Their support, of course, was some asian woman that yelled something along the lines of "WHY YOU TAKE GUN APART?" at me and wasn't able to understand it doesn't fucking work.

I've had a TM M1A1 Thompson for several years now and I've never had a problem with it.

[quote="$p!k3":0d6cd]Ya you can play Airsoft like paintball. Except you can't use the gas guns, or metal bb's.[/quote:0d6cd]
You can use gas guns, most people have a gas pistol for a backup gun they always carry. And yes, the bbs are not foam and are not soft. They hurt! Especially under 50 feet or so.

You can use gas? I always though those things could pierce through clothing and goggles.

[quote="$p!k3":c8f5f]You can use gas? I always though those things could pierce through clothing and goggles.[/quote:c8f5f]
Nope, there's two types of gas, green and red. Green gas is the most common and propels bbs at about the same speed as any AEG, red gas is under more pressure and can shoot faster (alot of guns dont recommend it), but still not even close to what would be needed to pierce goggles.

Re: Airsoft AEG selection.
 

Tokyo Mauri is the Honda of Airsoft, the quality isnt great but they will run forever without any care.

Re: Airsoft AEG selection.
 

Thats exactly why I'd recommend one beer:
But lets define quality here, I'm pretty sure you mean "luxury", as in no metal body. Other than that the "quality" is as good as any other for what the performance is.

Whatever happened to frolicking around naked in the garden with water pistols..

Exactly, my only regret is it doesnt have a metal body, that makes me mad, i wanted metal, but im not getting a metal body upgrade cause its a bitch to swap parts out.

[img]http://www.movv.com/prvupload/uploads/usp_m42.jpg[/img]

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how much was all that?

Agreed, but its definitely not impossible. I threw an m16 stock on mine to house a large battery instead of the minis in the grip, that also let add a nice full RIS system to it :)

This is from my friend, not me. so if you have any comments about it dont get pissed at me for his choosing of language. biggrin:

[quote="Sgt. Paine":2b6a1]how much was all that?[/quote:2b6a1]

The rifle was like 285 or something like that, the hand grip with Verticle grip was like 60 and the scope was another 50.

Anyway juju, i like the retractable stock for CQB, otherwise i'd change it out. But i love my Tokyo Mauri, but i cant get rid of that fucking black tape on the trademarks, it was like hard masking tape thats like glued on, it wont come off.

[quote=Milla]The rifle was like 285 or something like that, the hand grip with Verticle grip was like 60 and the scope was another 50.

Anyway juju, i like the retractable stock for CQB, otherwise i'd change it out. But i love my Tokyo Mauri, but i cant get rid of that fucking black tape on the trademarks, it was like hard masking tape thats like glued on, it wont come off.[/quote:3a04b]
Oh I didnt even notice the trademarks were covered... that sucks where'd you order from?

Some joint in Hong Kong. Should of gotten it from a US based realator.

hey juju, you know how to get rid of the fucking barrel wobble?

this is my friend that typed up the above post i made..

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Himmler:
That looks like a bitch ass little kid. I bet he's like 16. His shit doesn't even fit him right.

[quote="Busta-Gat":03f99]Himmler:
That looks like a bitch ass little kid. I bet he's like 16. His shit doesn't even fit him right.[/quote:03f99]

gg thats u, andy

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i dont think he cares lol

Actually, I'm not UMBCorp. Seriously.

[quote=Himmler]i dont think he cares lol[/quote:7204e]

I've done my good deed for the year.

If I give you $5 will you bitch slap him?

And I'm not Busta-Gat.. I swear stupid:

I’m getting the ICS, mostly for its "noob" feature of easily accessed internals. Hell that’s why allot of people I’ve talked to who own them say they like them, INTERNAL OPTIONS. While you may say its noobish (or your friend) it offers the ability to swap out whole internals in a snap changing weapon characteristics, FPS most noticeably. That naturally effects ballistics and so forth. So for a given game situation, say long range, you can have your 400 FPS parts in. Then for an indoor/cqb event you can swap out to a much slower set of internals, or a field limited FPS set. Try it with your weapon and have fun.

I’m sorry but I wouldn’t shit on a major advancement in weapon design by saying its for n00bs.

I've heard that G&G is a fine manufacturer, but I can’t justify the cost difference seeing how ive heard nothing but praise for the ICS. With its one and only features, including a useful (non mock) forward assist. It seems to be a clear choice in its class.

[quote="$p!k3":30db1]You can use gas? I always though those things could pierce through clothing and goggles.[/quote:30db1]

Green gas pistols shoot around 300-350 fps. The strike of one of the plastic BBs isnt quite as paintful as paintballs are. Also the goggles you wear aka paintball goggles or military goggles are ballistic proof. Meaning they can stop a .22.

Edit: Someone stop deleteing all the posts.

I have an ICS, and they're good guns. Only problem is, upgrade it past a 130 spring, it tends to have problems.. like not firing all the time, and if you hit the forward assist too much, you'll bust the piston.. I did.

Last game, Ed and I were walking down the path after a firefight we both survived, and another guy I know (opposing team) popped up from the bushes. I saw him first, went to fire.. and all I heard was "click". I thought we were both screwed. But thank god Ed saw him a split second after me, and fired just in time. And afterwards, he had the impression I saw the opposing team mate and just didn't fire.. and looked at me like I'm a moron. wallbash:

Heres my ICS beauty..
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/irishman0556/My%20Guns/paintd02.jpg[/img]

I still say go ICS, just if you upgrade it.. you need a seriously strong battery to push past the jamming.. and if your battery is too weak, and you stop firing in mid shot (while gears are wound up), and need to hit the forward assist.. try to not do that too much, because it'll break the fragile piston.

Or, since they're so easy to upgrade, get a new piston and spring, and slap em both in there at the same time.

But everyones left something out of the picture here.. the TM ak's. Yeah, they're a bitch to upgrade, but the V.3 gearbox is so reliable. I've only had one probolem.. when I didn't clean it for like a month, and it finally jammed in mid-firefight.

The TM ak's are twice as accurate, twice as reliable, and twice as durable than most of the guns out there.

And heres my twice as accurate, twice as durable, and twice as reliable TM Ak Spetsnaz Beita
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/irishman0556/My%20Guns/ak744.bmp[/img]

I had to throw my brothers 6.04 tightbore in the ICS to make it half as accurate as the AK.. and the AK still has the stock barrel (6.05). Something about AK's just makes em rock harder than most stock and upgraded guns.

Also, on Gas pistols, I know two or three people that argue that although the round only flies at 250-320fps, it'll hurt more than AEG's because something with air behind the BB. And others think they're stupid. Personally, I don't care.. as long as the gun works.

And no.. I'm not Busta-Gat.

Edit again: If you intend on getting a gun to upgrade, don't get any Tokyo Marui M16 variant, less' you have money to spend.. alot of money. The barrel wobble is a killer. And, take Bustas gun (in the pic), he's had so many upgrades, and so many people fiddle with it.. he's lucky when it fires. It's a TM, as well.. with plastic body, I believe. Now, if you leave a gun alone, it'll work forever. But when you upgrade a gun, expect stuff to go wrong. But expect more kills, too mwah:

Ill stick with my Tokyo Mauri. Even though it doesnt have a Metal body.