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Doctor Duffy 05-12-2005 09:16 PM

Dread the DREAD...haha, look a funn3h
 
This sounds too good to be true:
http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,1 ... iertech.nl
No recoil, no flash, tons of ammo, dead-on accuracy....oh, boy.

Milla 05-12-2005 09:28 PM

Right now i hope it doesnt end up like the OICW...fucking waste of money and resources.

Nyck 05-12-2005 09:30 PM

"just 120,000 rounds per minute" ed: ed: ed:

wtf

Blase 05-13-2005 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Milla
Right now i hope it doesnt end up like the OICW...fucking waste of money and resources.

Didn't the XM8 come out of the OICW project?

Himmler 05-13-2005 12:33 AM

itd be nice for soldiers, until some civilians get their hands on one, and what about terroists? could sit in a building shoot people and noone would know where it was coming from

Milla 05-13-2005 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Blase
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Originally Posted by Milla
Right now i hope it doesnt end up like the OICW...fucking waste of money and resources.

Didn't the XM8 come out of the OICW project?

Yeah but im like 80% sure none of our military will use it.

Tripper 05-13-2005 01:00 AM

Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

CoMaToSe 05-13-2005 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

only if it happens to be you

Tripper 05-13-2005 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMaToSe
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

only if it happens to be you

That's hilarious you big-breasted, baby-dicked bandit.

Stammer 05-13-2005 06:02 AM

Hacks.

Godsmack 05-13-2005 06:50 AM

looks ugly as fuck

CoMaToSe 05-13-2005 08:17 AM

yea, it doesnt look like a gun, more like some scifi toy

Akuma 05-13-2005 09:04 AM

What a joke.

TodzumPapst 05-13-2005 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Akuma
What a joke.

Agreed
the least they could do is make it shoot lasers!

Proteus 05-13-2005 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

Sure why the hell not? I know if I was going to die in combat I would rather have 4000 rounds pumped into me in less than a second rather than getting hit with a rifle and having to live through pain.

Short Hand 05-13-2005 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Proteus
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

Sure why the hell not? I know if I was going to die in combat I would rather have 4000 rounds pumped into me in less than a second rather than getting hit with a rifle and having to live through pain.

............Were not talking about the pain inflicted, but the fact that you can kill even more in mass with this weapon. + Im pretty sure a golf ball like projectile will hurt like a motherfucker.

Pyro 05-13-2005 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

Governments love to waste money.

Mr.Buttocks 05-13-2005 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

Governments love to waste money.


[img]http://img252.echo.cx/img252/1345/44115368hx.jpg[/img]

Tripper 05-13-2005 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Proteus
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

Sure why the hell not? I know if I was going to die in combat I would rather have 4000 rounds pumped into me in less than a second rather than getting hit with a rifle and having to live through pain.

You have a chance if you get hit with a regular weapon, look at the casualties from past wars, there is always about double the wounded than there is KIA - With weapons like these there will be NO wounded. One quick pull of the trigger and instant death. No second chance.

Stammer 05-13-2005 02:13 PM

[quote:f25c9]No heat, no recoil, no sound, no gunpowder, no flash -- just 120,000 rounds per minute of pulverizing power.[/quote:f25c9]

What the fuck is wrong with humanity?

Doctor Duffy 05-13-2005 04:20 PM

You ever noticed as the more dangerous the weapons become, the less casualties there are? I mean, christ, look at all the Medieval wars...thousands die within an hour. Then there goes the Civil War...millions die, and the rifles are weak as guck...modern combat, and we got the most souped-up weapons ever, and somehow the casualties are only in the thousands (Not that thats not high, just compared to past history..)

Himmler 05-13-2005 07:03 PM

[quote="Sgt. Duffy":bef5b] Then there goes the Civil War...millions die[/quote:bef5b]

lmfao you sure know your history. try 600,000. still alot, but nowhere near "millions"

TiberiusAD 05-13-2005 08:23 PM

[quote:23712]No heat, no recoil, no sound, no gunpowder, no flash -- just 120,000 rounds per minute of pulverizing power.[/quote:23712]

Ok. So you can make a gun that makes no sound. You can make a gun that doesn't involve gunpowder and can produce the equivilant firepower of an entire army...

..but you can't make a car with no gas?
..but can't beat the common cold?
..but can't get out of the solar system?
..but can't make a cheeseburger with no saturated fat?

I think humanities priorities may be off a bit. annoy:

Jin-Roh 05-13-2005 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TiberiusAD
[quote:cec10]No heat, no recoil, no sound, no gunpowder, no flash -- just 120,000 rounds per minute of pulverizing power.

Ok. So you can make a gun that makes no sound. You can make a gun that doesn't involve gunpowder and can produce the equivilant firepower of an entire army...

..but you can't make a car with no gas?
..but can't beat the common cold?
..but can't get out of the solar system?
..but can't make a cheeseburger with no saturated fat?

I think humanities priorities may be off a bit. annoy:[/quote:cec10]

<3

I agree. +1

Proteus 05-13-2005 08:35 PM

[quote="Short Hand":c1ba4]
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Originally Posted by Proteus
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

Sure why the hell not? I know if I was going to die in combat I would rather have 4000 rounds pumped into me in less than a second rather than getting hit with a rifle and having to live through pain.

............Were not talking about the pain inflicted, but the fact that you can kill even more in mass with this weapon. + Im pretty sure a golf ball like projectile will hurt like a motherfucker.[/quote:c1ba4]

Yeah but you'll be dead instantly.

Proteus 05-13-2005 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TiberiusAD
[quote:204e9]No heat, no recoil, no sound, no gunpowder, no flash -- just 120,000 rounds per minute of pulverizing power.

Ok. So you can make a gun that makes no sound. You can make a gun that doesn't involve gunpowder and can produce the equivilant firepower of an entire army...

..but you can't make a car with no gas?
..but can't beat the common cold?
..but can't get out of the solar system?
..but can't make a cheeseburger with no saturated fat?

I think humanities priorities may be off a bit. annoy:[/quote:204e9]

Obviously. You give me one reason why humans are on this Earth and I'll start caring about every single persons' life.

Jimbo@ 05-13-2005 08:54 PM

When I goto into battle I don't want to be holding the freaking USS Enterprise in my hands.

Tripper 05-13-2005 10:46 PM

[quote=Proteus]
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Originally Posted by "Short Hand":2558f
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Originally Posted by Proteus
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

Sure why the hell not? I know if I was going to die in combat I would rather have 4000 rounds pumped into me in less than a second rather than getting hit with a rifle and having to live through pain.

............Were not talking about the pain inflicted, but the fact that you can kill even more in mass with this weapon. + Im pretty sure a golf ball like projectile will hurt like a motherfucker.

Yeah but you'll be dead instantly.[/quote:2558f]

Exactly. Absolutely no chance of survival. Way more deaths will occur as a result of massproducing a weapon like that...

Jin-Roh 05-13-2005 10:55 PM

[quote=Tripper]
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Originally Posted by Proteus
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Originally Posted by "Short Hand":80eae
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Originally Posted by Proteus
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

Sure why the hell not? I know if I was going to die in combat I would rather have 4000 rounds pumped into me in less than a second rather than getting hit with a rifle and having to live through pain.

............Were not talking about the pain inflicted, but the fact that you can kill even more in mass with this weapon. + Im pretty sure a golf ball like projectile will hurt like a motherfucker.

Yeah but you'll be dead instantly.

Exactly. Absolutely no chance of survival. Way more deaths will occur as a result of massproducing a weapon like that...[/quote:80eae]

You're assuming that every other country in the world is a killing machine, wants a weapon like that, and will commit genocide/massacres. oOo:

Tripper 05-13-2005 10:59 PM

[quote="Jin-Roh":4108f][quote=Tripper]
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Originally Posted by Proteus
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Originally Posted by "Short Hand":4108f
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Originally Posted by Proteus
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Do we REALLY need more quicker and efficient ways to kill people in this world?

Sure why the hell not? I know if I was going to die in combat I would rather have 4000 rounds pumped into me in less than a second rather than getting hit with a rifle and having to live through pain.

............Were not talking about the pain inflicted, but the fact that you can kill even more in mass with this weapon. + Im pretty sure a golf ball like projectile will hurt like a motherfucker.

Yeah but you'll be dead instantly.

Exactly. Absolutely no chance of survival. Way more deaths will occur as a result of massproducing a weapon like that...[/quote:4108f]

You're assuming that every other country in the world is a killing machine, wants a weapon like that, and will commit genocide/massacres. oOo:[/quote:4108f]

Actually I'm not. I'm assuming that the technology will be taken up as the pinnacle of small arms for the future generations of weapons, they will be used just as much as current guns except the end result will be no wounded casualties and all deaths. Bitchcake.

Jin-Roh 05-13-2005 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
Actually I'm not. I'm assuming that the technology will be taken up as the pinnacle of small arms for the future generations of weapons, they will be used just as much as current guns except the end result will be no wounded casualties and all deaths. Bitchcake.

Then we better hope the armies recruit city boys that can't shoot the broad side of barn, huh?

Another thing to think about is: Better weapons, less soldiers? I guess that would only apply to the countries who use the weapon. Having a weapon that will give out instant deaths would be like an equivalent to a nuclear warhead. Countries probably wouldn't want to use them. It would be too easy.


lol.. I knew you would put something in there like bitchcake.

Hawke 05-13-2005 11:11 PM

[quote="Sgt. Duffy":91909]You ever noticed as the more dangerous the weapons become, the less casualties there are? I mean, christ, look at all the Medieval wars...thousands die within an hour. Then there goes the Civil War...millions die, and the rifles are weak as guck...modern combat, and we got the most souped-up weapons ever, and somehow the casualties are only in the thousands (Not that thats not high, just compared to past history..)[/quote:91909]
We're not fighting a body of over 1 million soldiers at the moment. It's a just a few thousands terrorist. Which would mean less dealth.

This idea is pure oOo: . However, I don't see it as reality. How could something possibly cycle so fast? I mean what can you actually do 120,000 times in a mintue? 2000 rounds a second? What can you do 2000 times in a second? Hell, you can barely do anything 10 times in a second. The world is on track for one major fuck up.

Jin-Roh 05-13-2005 11:14 PM

[quote=Hawke]
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Originally Posted by "Sgt. Duffy":f87c6
You ever noticed as the more dangerous the weapons become, the less casualties there are? I mean, christ, look at all the Medieval wars...thousands die within an hour. Then there goes the Civil War...millions die, and the rifles are weak as guck...modern combat, and we got the most souped-up weapons ever, and somehow the casualties are only in the thousands (Not that thats not high, just compared to past history..)

We're not fighting a body of over 1 million soldiers at the moment. It's a just a few thousands terrorist. Which would mean less dealth.

This idea is pure oOo: . However, I don't see it as reality. How could something possibly cycle so fast? I mean what can you actually do 120,000 times in a mintue? 2000 rounds a second? What can you do 2000 times in a second? Hell, you can barely do anything 10 times in a second. The world is on track for one major fuck up.[/quote:f87c6]

I agree, but their is an electronic "gun" being developed that can fire off a million or so rounds in a second. eek:

Hawke 05-13-2005 11:17 PM

[quote="Jin-Roh":a0d8e]

Their is an electronic "gun" being developed that can fire off a million or so rounds in a second. eek:[/quote:a0d8e]
Meh, people "develop" things that never get done or never actually. Its not easy to get things to do something 1 million times in a second. It would take tons and tons of barrels.

Regardless, its a dumb idea.

Blase 05-14-2005 08:45 PM

[quote="Sgt. Duffy":090f0]You ever noticed as the more dangerous the weapons become, the less casualties there are? I mean, christ, look at all the Medieval wars...thousands die within an hour. Then there goes the Civil War...millions die, and the rifles are weak as guck...modern combat, and we got the most souped-up weapons ever, and somehow the casualties are only in the thousands (Not that thats not high, just compared to past history..)[/quote:090f0]


It's not because the guns are bigger and better that for some reason people aren't dying as often,

It's because of advancements in medicine, more specifically antibioitics (Most wounded soldiers would die from infection of their wounds, not the wound itself), and field surgery that was keeping people alive more often then not.

Napoleon was able to keep most of his wounded after a battle alive because of a french surgeon who noticed that all his paitents would get infections and die after he closed the wound, so he would leave the wound open and a lot more troops were living with just a deformed leg or arm.

Then they stopped doing this after Napoleon, and troop mortality rates would keep skyrocketing because no one realized that by closing the wounds they were promoting infection, that was until some surgeon put a plaster cast over a mans wound because of a lack of suture and after a month he noticed that the plaster cast was absorbing all the infection. He started using this on all his incoming wounded and the chance of survivng their wounds went from 25% to around 95%.

So you see, the coincidence of better and better guns has abosolutly nothing to do whatsoever with the increased survival rate.

Miscguy 05-15-2005 08:40 AM

[url:d5149]http://defensereview.com/dad/dread.mov[/url:d5149]

Takes a bit to load but is good.

Whatada 05-15-2005 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Miscguy
[url:b1daf]http://defensereview.com/dad/dread.mov[/url:b1daf]

Takes a bit to load but is good.

1/3 of an inch apart!?

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Jakke 05-15-2005 10:27 AM

thats my head

Stammer 05-15-2005 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Miscguy
[url:3f377]http://defensereview.com/dad/dread.mov[/url:3f377]

Takes a bit to load but is good.

Reminds me of the UAC weapon videos from Doom 3.

Anyway that thing is useless, modern battlefields will be urban not LOTR style open field battles. Plus this is a HUGE double edged sword. Imagine you hear on the news one day "Iraqi Insurgents storm US convoy killing 18 soldiers, and stealing two Dread Weapon systems, then later mowed down a US Marine base killing hundreds US soldiers."

CoMaToSe 05-15-2005 11:52 AM

[quote="$p!k3":5ae31]
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Originally Posted by Miscguy
[url:5ae31]http://defensereview.com/dad/dread.mov[/url:5ae31]

Takes a bit to load but is good.

Reminds me of the UAC weapon videos from Doom 3.

Anyway that thing is useless, modern battlefields will be urban not LOTR style open field battles. Plus this is a HUGE double edged sword. Imagine you hear on the news one day "Iraqi Insurgents storm US convoy killing 18 soldiers, and stealing two Dread Weapon systems, then later mowed down a US Marine base killing hundreds US soldiers."[/quote:5ae31]
ya, thats a problem. those doom 3 UAC vids seem cheaply done, but now that Ive seen the real thing, very realistic. I think I done a bad thing: Should I have canceled the transmission rather than sending?


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