Well, call it what you will, "camping, sniping" or whatever, but I really hate people that complain about it. I mean, in WWII, did a German soldier shout, "Hey, American, stop that! I hate campers!!! Just get out here!" No! Absolutely not! I mean, in other games, camping might not be acceptable, but this isn't "other games."

I think that sniping is a necessity in this game, and to complain about it is like complaining about having your right arm. In Counter-Strike, sure go ahead and complain about it, but here, it gains nothing. Sadly, this post probably won't do much, but you, the people reading this, should do your best to spread this message to others you see in some servers complaining about "The guy in the belltower." I just think we need to clean up Medal of Honor one person at a time.

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Dont compare the game to WWII. Though i agree that in the war they had to camp while snipin' etc. But this is a game. I don't care if people camp cause i'll kill 'em anywayz. HEHE...but i agree with u.

actually WRONG. There IS camping in the game.

For instance, in The Hunt the American objective is destroying the 88 Gun, and a secondary objective might be considered destroying the enemy soldiers in the area.

Someone who climbs up into the very first building and sits there until they are they only one left on their team, and STILL sits there until the enemy soldiers finally find them and blow them up with a grenade is a Camper! Get over it.

It slows the game down. It is completely unproductive in terms of supporting and helping their team, except for an occasional kill, usually too late to do any good.

Of COURSE there is a difference between camping and being careful or defending the objective by staying back and waiting for the enemy to come to you. And of course many people moan and gripe about "campers" because the griper happened to die early and is bored wating for the end game to play out.

But you definately have games where there is one or two guys left on each side and they all just sit there until time runs out.

MOHAA is NOT World War II, it is a game with objectives and one in which we all play for fun. Campers are boring.

As for sniping, you rarely had 7 scopes in a one acre forward combat area like you do in this game. Sniping was part of the war in Europe. But it was not part of EVERY fire fight!

Anyway, "sniping" actually meant ANYONE firing from a distance on an exposed position. Only a small population were actual scoped marksman.

I don't mind snipers so much, except on Omaha where it destroys the original intent of the map. But it does get old when you have half the players in a game with scopes - scopes that are totally unrealistic and basically are just a super computer zoom that gives someone a ridiculous advantage over other players.

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Man Parchy are you the guy on Omaha that sits inside the troop transports or in the water sniping the Axis? I mean if you are then can I take a second to tell you how worthless this is to accomplishing the objective...I mean it is an OBJECTIVE map, and does require people to move not unlike The Hunt map. So, you are completely wrong on this and if you are only talking about other maps than the Objective maps and you are not a German on The Brisge, or an Allied on The Hunt or Omaha or V2 you are ...ahem....cough....CAMPING WORHTLESS RETARD THAT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE GAME HE JUST JOINED!

Go to a FFA server and camp your life away...as it does not matter...but on Obj maps you have a job and sitting in the water never seeing the front door to the way to the guns means....you are WORTHLESS!

IMHO

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Oh shit, I just forgot what to say.

What? Since when did I become "the evil allied sniper that snipes on omaha???" Just because my views coincide with the fact that sniping is okay doesn't mean I'm an awful person. Spine, you just need to chill out, because one day that attitude will get your balls cut off.

By the way, I've never sniped on Omaha. Thanks for asking though.

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BTW, There's camping in this game. Prove how there isn't. I'll give you a dollar. Maybe even $1.25.

~ST_Bazooka_Joe
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you haven't seen the allies pitch tents by the shingle?

Parchy....go get a gun and shoot yourself in the foot...sound dumb? Well then don't come out and make such an stupid statement expecting people to actually agree with such a moronic statement. The world is not flat and there is camping get over it. You get upset when people disagree with you....here is a hint...think before you type.

Also try and comprehend the reply also...or ask your Mom to help you out with a decent reply.

Only way I would lose my balls is if you sneezed while I was tea baggin ya.

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Spine, what is it that you hate so much about snipers or campers or whatever you are ranting about. Is it that they don't actively go place the charge? Can they not "camp" and snipe the machine gunners so others can run their happy asses to the top of the hill?
That is cool that you have the option to boot the people that dont just run straight at you guns blazing. That way you dont have to get pissed when two snipers are busting your teams asses over and over again. That really pisses you off doesnt it. Again I have played hours and hours and I have yet to play as allies on Omaha so the camping, sniping crap doesnt apply to me.
I will never understand how some people get off saying fighting a war is supposed to be this way or that. I wish someone would state the obvious. Better yet I will

I HATE TO BE SNIPED! IT PISSES ME OFF! JUST WALK UP AND BOOM OUT OF NO WHERE I'M DEAD. Takes me respawning a couple of times just to figure out exactly where the fool is. But, just because that pisses me off doesnt mean it is wrong. I am not going to quote webster for you but look up the definition of strategy. If you spend your time respawning and looking for the snipers you cant defend very well. If I was the allies and there was one other person with me I would want one of us to snipe and one to charge. What is the problem with that? And don't give me that not true to WWII bullshit. Just ask the thousands of men who died for the allies if they wished they had a sniper picking off the gunners for them.

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Spine, what is it that you hate so much about snipers or campers or whatever you are ranting about. Is it that they don't actively go place the charge? Can they not "camp" and snipe the machine gunners so others can run their happy asses to the top of the hill?
That is cool that you have the option to boot the people that dont just run straight at you guns blazing. That way you dont have to get pissed when two snipers are busting your teams asses over and over again. That really pisses you off doesnt it. Again I have played hours and hours and I have yet to play as allies on Omaha so the camping, sniping crap doesnt apply to me.
I will never understand how some people get off saying fighting a war is supposed to be this way or that. I wish someone would state the obvious. Better yet I will

I HATE TO BE SNIPED! IT PISSES ME OFF! JUST WALK UP AND BOOM OUT OF NO WHERE I'M DEAD. Takes me respawning a couple of times just to figure out exactly where the fool is. But, just because that pisses me off doesnt mean it is wrong. I am not going to quote webster for you but look up the definition of strategy. If you spend your time respawning and looking for the snipers you cant defend very well. If I was the allies and there was one other person with me I would want one of us to snipe and one to charge. What is the problem with that? And don't give me that not true to WWII bullshit. Just ask the thousands of men who died for the allies if they wished they had a sniper picking off the gunners for them.

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Your missing the point Gandolf. This isn't WWII, it's a FPS with a world warII theme.
Yesterday for example, I was on this server and there was one German player who sat beneith the stairs in the chruch.
The map is Objective_Bridge in witch the Germans have to destroy the bridge by planting explosives.

Eventually my whole team was dead (including me) and there were only 3 allies left. STILL, this guy sat and camped underneath the church until time ran out, we lost for failing to destroy the bridge.

How is camping underneath the church tacticle in any way? How does it help our team destroy the bridge?

And as for sniping. Unless you are pinning down the opposing team from a good vantage point, you are camping. Sitting in a back alley waiting for some poor soul to wander threw so you can get an easy kill does nothing to help the team. And it makes you seem like a complete n00bish retard in the proccess. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/mad.gif

Yo to all you llamas who think there is no camping in this game, please follow this link. For their is no hope for you.

http://www.fugly.com/tarddance/

lata llamas!

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I agree sniping is an intigral part of the game...


BUT ITS TOO DAM EASY

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I agree sniping is an intigral part of the game...


BUT ITS TOO DAM EASY

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And there are to damn many of them...
Make the scope bob and sway like those lame deer hunting games

No, I am not missing the point. In war and in this game there are chickenshits, retards, cowards and yellowbellies as well as good fighters.

I agree with the fact that the last person on your team should have tried to complete the mission but I dont think that is a case of sniping or camping. That is just a kid that doesnt know how to play the game. Or a kid who knows how to play that just wants to piss you off. I equate him to the guys that run around shooting teamates and throwing hand grenades in a room full of friendly's. I am strictly talking about it being perfectly fine for members of a team to sit in the boat and snipe germans while other team members charge the beach. That is what spine bitched about and that is what I was referring to.

As far as there being too many, that can be said with a whole team full of machine gunners and a but load of bazooka men. The winning team will be the one with the strategy that balances these resources. Unless there is a few thousand machine gunners charging the beach as was the case in the real battle you will need some snipers and bazooka men helping out. While I am on the subject why is it ok for snipers to "defend" but not be an integral part of the attack? Pot calling the Kettle if you ask me.

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Gandolf...sadly....you don't get it.

Strategy...that would be to sit on the beach and not go after the guns. You have to be a mental midget to miss this point.

And like the title of this subject says there is no camping in this game...bull shit. There is and I just outlined it and went into great detail so that simpletons would be able to comrehend it...however I did not figure I would have to lower the bar so that you could grasp the idea.

Sorry man, you don't get it and I love to bash snipers with my pistol...and if you had a brain you would have figured out that I am speaking about teammates not helping out...not me getting sniped. I don't get sniped and no you do not need snipers on the allied side...I have taken a sniper rifle and rushed the GUNS...what a novel idea RUSH THE GUNS...and it is not just this map my challenged little buddy...it is ALL objective maps.

But....I am sure you will not be able to read this and digest the information in this as you have missed the point completely already with the other posts.

Simple math Gandolt...ready If Johhny has 5 friends and 3 of his friends are snipers how many friends does Johnny have to rush the V2, Bridge, Guns with? The answer Gandolt is 3, 1/2 of his team is supporting him if an Axis gets on a machine gun...but he's already inside with the other 2 trying to move up to the guns. All the while the Axis players have 6 people and after being sniped do not get on the MG, nor do they stick their heads out...they wait at the choke point and slaughter the 3 man team, with their 6 man team. So, the 3 snipers are trying to help, but in reality they are worthless campers not helping with the OBJECTIVE.I hope that some of this just maybe stuck....


So, remember to clean up the wood splinters after you get through bashing that square peg through that round hole Gandolt.

Sigh.....(shruggs shoulders and walks away)

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HAHAHAAHAHAH

You rule Spine.
See ya online.

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Gandolt!......Square Peg!.......HAHAHAHAHA


(gandolf's math says that if his snipers can keep me from getting killed by the machine guns and let me get inside with the 6 cry babies you will still be 2 men shy of a win.)

Square peg! hahahahahahahahaah


bump!

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Oh, and if Johnny has 5 friends and 3 snipe he doesnt have 3 to charge. 5-3=2.

Gandolt is holding class!

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omg....I think you should stop now...this is just getting embarassing.

Johnny (1) has 5 friends = 6 total.

Damn...

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Yawn

gandolf go back to school.
lol spine you've made some really good points.
just some people (gandolf) seem to miss them http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif.

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ok, ok, This is why you are still in school:

You said and I quote "If Johhny has 5 friends and 3 of his friends are snipers how many friends does Johnny have to rush"


He has 2 friends left to rush
unless of course johnny is himself and his friend. Could be a skitzo I guess.

I get the point just tired of the damn whinning about people fighting certain ways. Stupid.

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Hey, what's for dinner?

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that's hilarious Snake. No matter how many times I see it, it just keeps getting funnier. Of course I'll probably go to hell for saying so. That link to the Tard page that [GF]CaBaL-ka-BoB posted is a close second.

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Sofa King We Todd Id

I snipe on all the maps if the mood strikes me.
As a matter of fact, I purposely choose a sniper rifle to kill someone I recognize as one of the camper/sniper whiners. Tickles the hell outta me to shoot one of you crybabies!
Its a game. If you guys are so set in your little child minds that there isn't a need for snipers/camper (as you so call them) then I suggest you ladies sign up for service and pull a stint in the military. When your done, and if you actually can make it thru then come and tells us the wisdom gained. Otherwise, you weak-kneed, pencil-necked, ass-pimples quit your bitching and play the GAME.
PS. in the service we had names for you gung-
ho, charge the guns type... cannon-fodder, dumbass, and the #1 name.... DEAD

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I get the feeling that Gimli has buggy whip arms and is 13...

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we did have snipers in the USA but they never 'camped' per se ... they were always out with us in support of the troops... the times that they WOULD camp they'd be out on their own... in support of a combined arms unit, not usually, excepting to get the high ground and cover us.

-Bish

I'll play either way and have fun. I just wish people would check to see how many our left on their team and move their arses if they are 1 of the 2 remaining http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spineharvester[GF]:
I get the feeling that Gimli has buggy whip arms and is 13...
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I get the feeling that if your mom finds out your using her computer without adult supervision your going to get grounded.

Gimli does his stint in the "special forces" in Desserrt Storm.

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TEN HUT, retard on deck!

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Bishop:
we did have snipers in the USA but they never 'camped' per se ... they were always out with us in support of the troops... the times that they WOULD camp they'd be out on their own... in support of a combined arms unit, not usually, excepting to get the high ground and cover us.
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Not sure what you were sniping in the USA but one of the things you learn in sniper training is how to find a spot in which to observe and or interdict the enemy. Sometime that may require hours, days sometime weeks in staying in the one spot. By Spinaltaps definition that is a camper.
The first thing you do in sniper training is start building your ghillie suit. One of the functions of the suit is to hide the sniper.
Enough said about snipers/camping. If Spineless wants to whine about it he can.
I'm done.
Now lets go play the game and have some fun!

man...spine that last pic of yours is hilarious... but i think "camping" when defending is necessary,but when he's a solo camper he should move his ass...at least to die fast

there is no camping in this game i agree

Four Words
Calm the fuck down
that goes for everyone
GOSH, it is game. and this is the internet,
most of the time when im the last person on The Hunt I wait for the Axis to come in this one door while i shoot them while crouching in a croner because there are more than 3 GUYS.
i mean camping isnt that bad. and no its not good while ervyone is waiting. BUTTTT, if you are being an a-hole like some saying thta capming is not good or good, then if you thought about it maybe you can do both. since the game is a game u can charge around killing everyone, i like that BUT if its obj-based u have something like 1 life then u have to wait till next game then its arlight to camp, i dont mean like sitting there waiting 2 hours till the guy thats pinging out leaves. i would really like to see a game where u have to wait a day to play again or something similar. maybe u have to go to a hospital for 30 mins or 3 mins i dunno. and dont start cussing me out either. im trying to let u guys in on a secret of this game...

and like this guy said, i dont like campers on OPEN maps like omaha but to me, camping is good on The Hunt
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OMFG....this is some how hard to understand? I guess this is now a direct example of why people join objective servers and fart around and piss people off. Same as in CS when I use to play that...terrorsits camping the spawn on Dust...if anyone knows what I am talking about then they know how frustrating this is. What ends up happening...he does nothing to help his team...he is a complete idiot newb who thinks that camping his spawn will some how protect him more....he waste the time of his teammates and the others by sitting there doing nothing. End result team loses and he is punked by an over whelming force...or they let the time run out and they still lose.

If you want to sit in the corner with your gun and think that this stealthy move is going to somehow make you better...go for it. You will die...you will sit there being bored and wasting everyone's time and you will be gang raped by the remainder of the team, and wont have a prayer. It is that simple you don't support your team that is one less gun to suppress the enemy or make them shoot at multiple targets...instead you stay back and hide like a retarded coward only to see multiple attackers swarm on your precious hiding spot and destroy you...and usually humiliate you while they bash you with pistols laughing as they know your a newb. Real helpful and you did not do a damn thing to complete the objective, just embarasse yourself and make people laugh at you.

Let me spell this out to you people...and those of you that have shit 56k who think that excuses you to ignore objectives.

There are four types of maps in this game.

Round-based
Death Match
Team Death Match

and (horns)

O B J E C T I V E

You can camp to your little lifes content on the other 3....but on OBJECTIVE you have guess what...yep an OBJECTIVE to accomplish! Why is this soo fucking hard to understand?

Here is a definition of objective so that the campers understand. Also no an Axis player on Omaha or V2, CAN NOT be a camper as they are trying to defend.

2objective
Function: noun
Date: 1835
1 : a lens or system of lenses that forms an image of an object
2 a : something toward which effort is directed : an aim, goal, or end of action b : a strategic position to be attained or a purpose to be achieved by a military operation

I hope that this is crystal clear and that you understand something, that is plain and simple but for some reason or excuse people can't understand this.

Also you come to my clans server and camp on the beach with you stupid sniper rifle and not help the people trying to get to the guns...your ass is booted.

Class dismissed.

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LOL! You got me!!
Since we are sharing photos I thought I would share some of your...
Check out these pics of Spineless.
http://photos.yahoo.com/sargedf2000
The first one is what he looks like during the day.
The second one is how he relaxes for a stimulating chat session on the internet.

[This message has been edited by Gimli (edited February 13, 2002).]

I don't mind the snipers who "camp".
But there is camping in this game.

Some lame ppl with mp40 or whatever just
sit on one spot thoughout the game and waits
just because they are chickens.
Don't really mind them either(cuz i always
kill them hehehe http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif)
but its very annoying if u r dead and waiting for the round to end and the guy
just sits there until the time runs out.