Bush says anti-war protests threaten to weaken the USA
 

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Bush says anti-war protests threaten to weaken the United States
Canadian Press
August 23, 2005

DONNELLY, Idaho (AP) - President George W. Bush said Tuesday that anti-war protesters such as Cindy Sheehan, who want U.S. troops brought home immediately, are "advocating a policy that would weaken the United States."

In remarks to reporters outside an exclusive resort where he is vacationing, Bush gave no indication that he would change his mind and meet with Sheehan when he returns to his Texas ranch Wednesday evening.

Sheehan, who lost a son in Iraq and has emerged as a harsh critic of the war there, has been maintaining a vigil outside Bush's ranch that has attracted other anti-war protesters.

Bush said that two high-ranking member of his staff have already met with her.[/quote:b0458]

LOL @ the photo in that article....

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Bill Moyer, 73, wears a "Bullshit Protector" flap
over his ear while President George W. Bush addresses
the Veterans of Foreign Wars. (AP Photo/Douglas C. Pizac)

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lmao at bullshit protector

what a spin, Id like to see the entire quote but that wouldnt help thier anti US stance. What a joke. They put a quote in with the Shehann name to get a rise out of you people. The Canadian press is more fucked up than the US press

Saving american lives would strengthen America in my opinion instead of wasting their lives in Iraq.

not letting each and every fucknut into Canada just so they can come across our border would strengthen Canada and its relations with the US

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not letting each and every fucknut into Canada just so they can come across our border would strengthen Canada and its relations with the US[/quote:9e0f9]

oOo:

Why would Bush even say something like this? Denying our right to oppose is just proving his stupidity. Its our right and if he denies it then our country would be weakend.

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not letting each and every fucknut into Canada just so they can come across our border would strengthen Canada and its relations with the US[/quote:11fe6]

its the US border they cross, not the canadian oOo:

[quote=KTOG] oOo:

Why would Bush even say something like this? Denying our right to oppose is just proving his stupidity. Its our right and if he denies it then our country would be weakend.[/quote:3898a]he never denied your right. He even said countless times on CNN clips that he respects her right to her beliefs.

its misquoted and taken out of context, he didnt say what appears in the article.

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":bbc45]its misquoted and taken out of context, he didnt say what appears in the article.[/quote:bbc45]

for those of us that didnt see/hear what he said. Can u enlighten us to what he actually said?

[quote=Coleman]he never denied your right. He even said countless times on CNN clips that he respects her right to her beliefs.[/quote:f5607]

Yes, but I said it doesn't weaken the people. It just invokes the rights we do have.

[quote=KTOG]Yes, but I said it doesn't weaken the people. It just invokes the rights we do have.[/quote:6d611]why would you even say that then if it's established that he never condemned her right to her feelings? You said "Denying our right to oppose is proving his stupidity" which tells me you believe he said she shouldn't be allowed to protest at Crawford Ranch.

I'm not follow you with what you're trying to say...

heretic

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01281.html

from article:

Bush dismissed demands from Sheehan and others to bring U.S. troops home from Iraq. "I think immediate withdrawal from Iraq would be a mistake," he said. "I think those who advocate immediate withdrawal from not only Iraq but the Middle East are advocating a policy that would weaken the United States."

She has the right to do what she's doing, but saying that she's harming the US is just wrong.

Hope thats a bit clear.

That man is digging Americas grave

[quote=Poseidon]for those of us that didnt see/hear what he said. Can u enlighten us to what he actually said?[/quote:d5c66]


"I appreciate her right to protest. I understand her anguish," Bush said Tuesday. "I met with a lot of families. She doesn't represent the view of a lot of the families I have met with. And I'll continue to meet with families."

I think that protestors weaken morale. Our troops are over there and if we aren't fully behind them, they know that and it weakens them.

It's just like the Democrats, they can't unify behind anything, and that weakens them and that's why they lost the election. They all want something different and won't compromise for their own good.

They lost the election because guys like you will never vote for another party even if your party fucks up royally.

It is the same way in Canada...Liberals can take all our money and we'll still vote them in...but at least your Democrats are better than our conservatives.

[quote:69618]They lost the election because guys like you will never vote for another party even if your party fucks up royally. [/quote:69618]

You're a very confused young man rewritting history -

Even IF this were true - only 1/3 of the population voted. . .which means that there were 2/3'rds of the population that the deomcratic leadership in this country could have reached out to and get motivated to vote - but they didnt.

That speaks volumes.

That and Republicans simply had the better candidate.

TGB is right, the American Democratic Party is full of spineless fucking weasels.

Kerry > $pike

[quote="Short Hand":5fd0c]Kerry > $pike[/quote:5fd0c]

No.

No, even more people came out to vote for Bush this past election than the one before that.

YEAH! Bush got more people than actually exist in certain counties to come out and vote for him! He's amazing!

LOL Bush Is A Sorcerer

there were discrepancies on both sides.

dems lost.

end of story.

How old are you?

the election was bullshit anyway. Both candidates sucked. Both candidates should have lost to another partie. But since people didn't want to look for a better candidate, they went for the ones at hand.

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Being that the vast majority of registered adult voters are Democrats and the Republicans can still win elections, especially nationally, it says something about how convincing their candidate was when they could has ass swamped any Republican candidate they wanted. For a Republican to win, some Democrats and Independents have to vote for the person.

Easier to get the polls in a small hoboken town with one street light than in the city ;)

Just kidding happy:

Well I have to say I disagree with Bush.(about the millionth time ive said that since he was elected. oOo:) Ok first of all, the people of America have a right to voice their opinions. This woman has suffered a tradgedy, that I would not wish upon my worst enemies. She has lost her son. She has a right to protest, and she has a right to want the remainder of the US troops to be brought home so more families need not suffer her fate. On the other hand, that is what terrorists want. For America to not be united. And, in a way, when Americans aren't united, they are weakened. But, the fact is, we have over 200 million people living in America, and there is no way every single person is going to, without a question, be united in everything. And that undermines one of the things that makes America so great. People here are allowed to voice their opinions, and are allowed to debate with people who they disagree with. One of the underlying principles on which America was founded on was free speach, and the founding fathers knew, even then, that as a result of free speach America would never be completely united. But thats whats so great about america. It encourages indivisuality. And if we have come to the point, where we cannot voice our opinions about this war, without being accused of weakening the united states as a whole, then the terrorists have done a better job with us then they could ever have hoped.

[quote:ecb3b]speach, indivisuality[/quote:ecb3b]


I do think this woman is taking advantage of her right.

[quote:19dcb]And if we have come to the point, where we cannot voice our opinions about this war, without being accused of weakening the united states as a whole, then the terrorists have done a better job with us then they could ever have hoped.[/quote:19dcb]

Just as she has the right to say that the war is wrong and the troops should come home, Bush has the right to tell people that anti-War protests are hurting progress.

Just as she has the right to say that the war is wrong and the troops should come home, Bush has the right to tell people that anti-War protests are hurting progress.[/quote:132d7]

He has the right to say it - But it doesn't make it logically correct. Isn't this debate about why it's not? Just like in the other threads the debate was about what was logically wrong about Shehaan's (sp?) argument....

No-one's really arguing about free-speech. The debate in this thread looks as though it was fueled by people assuming that Bush is attempting to urge people to not voice their anti-war opinions. I'm not sure if that's the right thing for a leader of a country to do....But then again, it's not my country. nag:

[quote:46675]He has the right to say it - But it doesn't make it logically correct. Isn't this debate about why it's not? Just like in the other threads the debate was about what was logically wrong about Shehaan's (sp?) argument....

No-one's really arguing about free-speech. The debate in this thread looks as though it was fueled by people assuming that Bush is attempting to urge people to not voice their anti-war opinions. I'm not sure if that's the right thing for a leader of a country to do....But then again, it's not my country.[/quote:46675]

Although protests and dissent don't outrightly undermine anything--unless they progress to a phase of violence--battles that are won through mixed opinions take much longer than those where we the populous are convinced of the outcome and have the constitution to go the distance; in this, Bush is unquestionably correct.

The president is not telling people to calm their concerns, nor is he in my opinion inferring it to that extent. He does, however, caution people to be more cautious in the future in how they are voiced. To insurgents, American dissent is viewed as a small victory, because it is the only way they can be victorious. They do not dream of defeating the American forces in open battle, the fight the struggle of the mind and hope to cause enough uproar that the United States leaves dejectedly with its tail between its legs.

[quote:80926]To insurgents, American dissent is viewed as a small victory.[/quote:80926]That is where I believe you are wrong and right at the same time. On one hand, Im sure insurgents welcome the fact that the US is not united. And on the other hand, isn't that what Bush is saying terrorists hate us for? For our free speach? For our right to disagree, and debate? And yet, k
now he says that those very freedoms weaken us, that is what I dont get.