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Saddam was a fucking psycho.
"although the weapons stockpiles were destroyed, Saddam’s government was looking to begin a WMD program again." The UN gave him all the time he wanted. He didn't follow the UN orders. So what happened? Nothing. The UN is a joke. That's why the US had to do something before he could really hurt more people. |
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[quote="Sgt>Stackem":9ab79]well, if a blogger said it thenit must be true[/quote:9ab79]
I'm sorry....Did you miss the 25 credible links that ninty also posted? If you tell me they're bias - Then we can all assume you're just a blind follower and have no real opinion of your own. |
Someone wrote to the Toronto Sun newspaper saying;
[quote:91306]Most Americans who support the war in Iraq fall under one or more of three categories: 1.) They're registered Republicans, and will blindly follow the party. 2.) They believe it is the right of the U.S. to dictate their views to the world. 3.) They have a son or daughter serving in the military, and support the war as a defensive mechanism to convince themselves that loss of life is somehow worth it.[/quote:91306] |
iraq is a front on the war against terrorism.
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I dont have to read the links. I feel we were justified for Sadaams actions alone. He broke every promise made after the gulf war. The UN is too big a bunch of pussies to stand behind thier own words, so once again it falls on our shoulders. Every country that doesnt back us fully can kiss my ass. We dont need them and we should back out of the UN and kick thier asses out of the US.
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wow, youre so gung ho about this war, why arent you in it yet?
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iraq is, or should be, the beginning to a much larger offensive against terrorism. I dunno if it was right or wrong, just or whatever to invade iraq but now that were there, and our persince is known we need to send a message to radicals throughout the world, that terrorism will not stand, whereever they might hide we must find them/capture them/kill them, whatever country abets terrorists we must overthrow and replace it with something, whatever that is, by the majority of people in that region. I dunno if its "just" or "right" on the world scale, but I would rather have the USA, and its allies in control then terrorist holding the threat of a suicide bombing over our heads. |
thats retarded, terrorists didnt appear in iraq until the coalition invaded. if we wanted to make a stand we should have flooded afghanistan and pakistan with troops instead of entering the wrong country. who says the US has a handle on terrorism. there is nothing you can do to prevent a terrorist attack. anyone could make any kind of attack anywhere and at anytime. what message have we sent to radical islam that wasnt said before? osama hasnt been caught and there hasnt been any justice for what happened on 9/11. we just wasted a shit load of money and lost over a thousand troops. GG us.
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what does it matter? we're there, now lets lift up the men and women who are being shot at, and make sure that their efforts do not go unnoticed. right or wrong...the armchair generals and quasi-political experts need to shut their mouths.
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I specifically said that terrorists didnt appear in iraq until the coalition arrived, which is true dont you think? there werent suicide bombings and beheadings before we got there. for every radical you eliminate, it just adds fuel to the fire. the entire war on terror is almost avoiding the issue. can anyone here remember why terrorists attack the west? they (terrorists) have repeatedly stated over and over again why they attack us. Quote:
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of course its a big deal over here because we dont give a shit about the 200+ iraqis who get blown to bits in some city over there. 10 plots is good, but its not going to change the course of events imo. the way to win would be to kill osama bin laden and then change our foreign policy to deflect international hatred towards us. what good is foiling 10 plots if they still plan to strike? there isnt going to be some final event that determines the end of this war. there is no end in sight. we need to re-think our policies and interests internationally.
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thats just it, we arent doing our best and i think that under this administration, the real objective will never been completed. if osama is in afghanistan or pakistan then we should take our troops there instead of iraq. this whole business about taking the long course and doing the best we can until we catch him is just another way for the administration to drag out its policies and to reward contracts to contributors. this business of just accepting a prolonged campaign is just giving up on what could be a focused mission to get vengeance for 9/11. this war in iraq is a distraction from all the shit bush is doing at home and to instill some false sense of american pride and patriotism when there really shouldnt be that much. its been so long since 9/11 and so many other innocents have died, there is hardly any reason to justify our aggression anymore. the 9/11 dead is just a fraction of the total casualty list. i dont see how anyone can honestly say that we are making any real progress in the war on terror, and i dont see how we can just accept a long and ongoing war without any real plan for victory.
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Mad, I couldn't agree more with what you've said....People need to look at the situation realistically now.
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Hell, if those are reasons...I can see countries thinking USA is deserving of an attack.
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can you post some links telling us what UN sanctions we violated? I think alot of countries have forever changes thier relationship with the US because of this. The only true allies we have are Great Britian and Austrailia. |
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can you post some links telling us what UN sanctions we violated? I think alot of countries have forever changes thier relationship with the US because of this. The only true allies we have are Great Britian and Austrailia.[/quote:f9a9a] It is like being best friends with someone for 20 years...then they go and murder your mother...USA under Bush is undeserving of blind following. Canada is with America whenever they need it, but not when it is for stupid reasons like a war in iraq or vietnam. |
A change in foreign policy would cause dissent among those who support it [the majority of Republicans]?
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I would have to disagree with that statement, what did Canada offer when Katrina happened? the equivalent of a couple of blankets and a thermos of hot coffee. It is sad but I think the relation between our two countries has changed more in the last three years more than ever, it is for the worst |
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[/quote:e5e8c] what the fuck? lol thats just retarded talk, go die somewhere |
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I would have to disagree with that statement, what did Canada offer when Katrina happened? the equivalent of a couple of blankets and a thermos of hot coffee. It is sad but I think the relation between our two countries has changed more in the last three years more than ever, it is for the worst[/quote:3d84b]I so sick of this shit, "what has other countrys done for us?" In stead of focusing on when other countrys didnt do, try to focus on what your own government didnt do This is what our government did to help with Katrina, [url:3d84b]http://www.psepc.gc.ca/publications/emergency/em_pub002_e.asp#2[/url:3d84b] (fucking google much?) |
I guess that just shows the difference between countries. When the tsunami hit the US sent almost 1 billion dollars and we caught shit for not doing enough, so in comparision the hurrican relief is small potatos http://www.usaid.gov/locations/asia_near_east/tsunami/
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Economically, we are not the same, and we did help out, and it seems we helped out quicker than your own president.
We help you, you help us...helping out with the tsunami has nothing to do with USA-Canada relations. Too say all we did was "give blankets and coffee" is fucking ignorant. I helped out with my own fucking money more than that one thing and to fucking say thats all Canada did makes you someone undeserving of living in either of these two countries. |
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I agree with jibber. However, you're still trying to put the blame on someone or something else by focusing on what your own government didn't do. That doesn't help. One question I think should be noticed: "Does your country rely on another to help with a disaster?" If not, then perhaps your country is doing fine overall. If so, then maybe you should contact your representative, senator, or someone with enough guts to listen to one citizen and act. Citizens need to stop complaining about another country or their own. About how they are doing a shitty job. Their job is to just overall to protect and serve you. If they aren't doing that, then get involved. Get off your ass and make an influence on others. The kind of action I am refering to is the kind that will significantly change the current state of a nation, not just a few hudred, gradual steps that will take a Presidents whole time in office to complete. So, if someone who is against the current foreign policy, they need to get together with some political giants and find an effective way to convince the man in office to change it with a compromise. Where each side wins. I don't even see why we have "sides". No wonder America is doing it's best. We are so divided that I wouldn't be surprised if civil war broke out if more people were far more aggressive. This country is divided because people treat everything like a competitive game. |
the real truth is there shouldnt have been any problems with Katrina if the idiots left when it was a mandatory evacuation
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