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Airborne Butters 01-11-2006 10:52 PM

Butters in the Marines?
 
Well old Butters has been pondering the future alot lately, and I decided today to talk to the Marine recruiting office. They were hellah nice and very honest,easy going guys to talk to. They basically told me that I'm going to have to drop like 40 pounds before I can go to boot, but they were very motivational about it. The guy mentioned something about how they do some PT workout thing every Weds.

Anyways, my point is I know some of you guys have done armed services and such, so my question is what's the processing week about? Like I know you have to run a mile and a half in 13:30 and some other stuff. Also, I know boot camp is difficult, but exactly how difficult?

Unknown_Sniper 01-11-2006 10:59 PM

13:30 eek: you should be able to walk a mile that fast.
I personally have not been in the services. My cousin however joined the navy and did some basic physical training with some seal's before even entering boot(for close to a year probably). Needless to say he was a healthy guy before that, and after, he was solid as a brick. Those guys will whip you into shape fast if you really want to join.
If this is the path you decided to go down, then good luck man, hope it works out for you.

Madmartagen 01-11-2006 11:26 PM

boot camp can be rough, but if you have the willpower, you'll make it through. you really need to ask yourself why you want to join, though. if you dont really know yourself, you're wasting your time and you wont make it.

Milla 01-12-2006 12:03 AM

Butters before you jump into the Corps you have to WANT to be a Marine. Because i will be the first to tell you the pay sucks and you get shit benefits and living conditions as opposed to the Air Force, Navy and Army.

Coleman 01-12-2006 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Milla
Butters before you jump into the Corps you have to WANT to be a Marine. Because i will be the first to tell you the pay sucks and you get shit benefits and living conditions as opposed to the Air Force, Navy and Army.

I did not know that. How different are the benefits/pay?

Milla 01-12-2006 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by Milla
Butters before you jump into the Corps you have to WANT to be a Marine. Because i will be the first to tell you the pay sucks and you get shit benefits and living conditions as opposed to the Air Force, Navy and Army.

I did not know that. How different are the benefits/pay?

Pay is pretty significant as opposed to the Air force. I think the army's pay grades are the same, but they get more money for college and various other benefits. Same with the navy.

Zap. USMC 01-12-2006 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Milla
Butters before you jump into the Corps you have to WANT to be a Marine. Because i will be the first to tell you the pay sucks and you get shit benefits and living conditions as opposed to the Air Force, Navy and Army.

shit man, you ruined the surprise!

The pay grades are the same in all branches, it's just mainly the benefits, such as college as my man Milla mentioned. There aren't any pay differences unless you are special forces, scuba, etc.

Milla 01-12-2006 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Milla
Butters before you jump into the Corps you have to WANT to be a Marine. Because i will be the first to tell you the pay sucks and you get shit benefits and living conditions as opposed to the Air Force, Navy and Army.

shit man, you ruined the surprise!

The pay grades are the same in all branches, it's just mainly the benefits, such as college as my man Milla mentioned. There aren't any pay differences unless you are special forces, scuba, etc.[/quote:44a11]

I wasn't sure about that. I know signing bonuses and all that bull shit are nearly non-existant for us....than again we are the best so we don't need all that jazz happy:

TonyMontana 01-12-2006 01:06 AM

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Tripper 01-12-2006 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana
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roflmao

Eight Ace 01-12-2006 04:40 AM

God bless that chap from the Internet!...if there were a few more of his ilk about the place we'd all be a lot better off imho.

anti 01-12-2006 05:04 AM

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it appears to be a monkey sucking another monkey's penis. i'll keep you updated.

SoLiDUS 01-12-2006 06:42 AM

If canadians were allowed in your Air Force, I would try to become a chopper pilot... I wanna fly one of those things so bad.

Fucking private training and licenses = 12000$. No thanks, pay ME to learn how to do it. :)

Colonel 01-12-2006 07:04 AM

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":3fc07]13:30 eek: you should be able to walk a mile that fast.[/quote:3fc07]

He said a mile and a half. That's a nine minute mile. Shouldn't be too tough but if you are 40 pounds over weight you'll proabably have to build up to it, so you'd better go ahead and hit the streets.

Congrats on the decision Butters. Good luck. BTW - you might want to post over in the OTD fourms. We have a couple of ex-marines and one that I think still works in or around the Pentagon. We also have guys that have been, or currently are, in some branch of the military.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-12-2006 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
If canadians were allowed in your Air Force, I would try to become a chopper pilot... I wanna fly one of those things so bad.

Fucking private training and licenses = 12000$. No thanks, pay ME to learn how to do it. :)

ya I was considering doing that but you gotta be a genius to pass the computer tests & I suck at math... Still passed the pilots tests though rock: just fkd up on navigation.

Semper fi butters, go for it if that's what you wana do. I was pretty certain about joining the Royal Navy & then I realised you can't get laid on ships so I'm now content with the reserve.

TGB! 01-12-2006 08:54 AM

If I were you BUTTERS - I would lose MORE than fucking the minimum. . .not because fatties CANT complete basic - but because you will be harrassed by the fellow recruits in your plat as well as your Drill Instructors -

Not to mention you get to wear this nice blue name tag (dunno if they still do this) indicating you as a fatty in the mess hall and only to receive certain food stuffs.

Johnj 01-12-2006 09:20 AM

Fatty fatty, two by four
can't get through the kitchen door.


happy: dance:

Miscguy 01-12-2006 09:44 AM

Fatties are not welcomed in any service. lose 70 pounds if they suggested 40, then enter. Also dont join just because your life sucks and your going no where. I knew some of those guys and you wanted to fucking strangle them. Join because you want to kill people and blow shit up, not because the college is good or you want to "see the sights". You'll be dissapointed. Also, marines are hard core mother fuckers who are highly motivated and want nothing else than to be a good marine. Be a shit bag and they will fucking hate and destroy you.

The Army is far more laxed and "whatever" for your reasoning to join. Alot of college money kids, and i didnt have anything else to do types of people there. Most of those people dont have combat MOS's and are a drag to be around in basic. Army Infantry school is harder, and filled with fewer shit bags. Basic is 9 weeks, infantry basic is 9 weeks, 2 day pass, then 4 more weeks with the same drill sergants. If your a serious soldier in the Army, you'll want to be airborne trained and attempt for SF, rangers, or other selective elements, they weed out all college kids and so forth.

Whatever you do. Dont join in the fall/winter. Joining in the fall means it starts to get cold but you dont get issued cold weather gear thats good enough to deal with it. Boots mainly, frost bite 3 times really gets fucking old. Also if you join at a time that splits your training due to christmas break. Thats bad. I was on hold at my basic unit when the next cycle came in and they were a split cycle. My DS's were betting on who could get the most recruits to not come back from break. There method was being complete fucking dicks. I mean they were bad with our group but fuck these kids got it worse, fun to watch.

Choose wisely as it is a rather long commitment.

Airborne Butters 01-12-2006 09:52 AM

it's not even college or my life is going no where. This is something I've wanted to do for a while. I plan on joining law enforcment, and since Marines have a higher chance of getting in and better "connections" this is something I've wanted to do for a while.

I've basically put myself on a strict diet and exercise. Just simple shit at the moment. I walk/jog a mile every night and do about 10 crunches and 10 pushups every morning and night.

Miscguy 01-12-2006 10:00 AM

Try to rig something up for pull ups to.

Bean 2 01-12-2006 11:01 AM

Be careful of any military recruiters. When I spoke to them, they seemed nice and they told me all this cool stuff and all the benefits i would receive. I started to taking to other people that had been in the marines and they said it was bullshit. I have a lot of respect for anyone in the military, but those damn recruiters piss me off. If your really serious about this, you gotta step up that exercise routine. 10 crunches and push ups aint much. Try joining a gym and get a personnal trainer.

Jin-Roh 01-12-2006 11:41 AM

Fuck spending money on personal trainers. Just do the PT on Wednesdays plus incorporate your wanted diet/excercise program. Duh.

Good luck, Butters.

I'm more than likely going to join either the marines or army. However, I would rather wait until I am more fit, outgoing, and just for shits-n-giggles, training in firearms.

Colonel 01-12-2006 11:45 AM

[quote="Bean 2":4c5cc] Try joining a gym and get a personnal trainer.[/quote:4c5cc]

Good idea. You gotta start somewhere so don't worry about starting with just walking and a few situps. How much time do you have? Your going to have to up the mileage, speed and situps etc. alot before you get there. A trainer is a great idea, especially if you have never worked out before.

Crazy Canadian 01-12-2006 11:48 AM

Re: Butters in the Marines?
 
[quote="Airborne Butters":f139a]They were hellah nice and very honest,easy going guys to talk to.[/quote:f139a]


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Judas 01-12-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
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roflmao

AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHH

Johnj 01-12-2006 01:10 PM

Jin-Roh don't bother getting any civilian firearms training, it will just mess you up when they try to train you in the service.

Pyro 01-12-2006 01:46 PM

running sucks.

Milla 01-12-2006 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnj
Jin-Roh don't bother getting any civilian firearms training, it will just mess you up when they try to train you in the service.

Couldn't be more right. Some of the "red neck" country boys who have been shooting rifles for 10 years with their dads think they are high and mighty and will shoot the best. WRONG because you already have developed bad habits and an M16 is nothing like a hunting rifle or any other civilian rifle AR-15 aside. It helps if have never fired a rifle ever such as myself.

Also butters when you do your crunches, and push ups do 10 of each EVERY hour. And for every hour you miss make it up at night. I'm not saying count the hours your asleep either happy:

Stammer 01-12-2006 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Milla
Also butters when you do your crunches, and push ups do 10 of each EVERY hour. And for every hour you miss make it up at night. I'm not saying count the hours your asleep either happy:

Yeahs that's a good routine too, one I've started recently is this..

Get two chairs and do 100 push ups, as soon as you get tired stop and do crunches until you get tired from crunches then go back to push ups until you can hit 100 push ups straight.

Tripper 01-12-2006 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stammer
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Originally Posted by Milla
Also butters when you do your crunches, and push ups do 10 of each EVERY hour. And for every hour you miss make it up at night. I'm not saying count the hours your asleep either happy:

Yeahs that's a good routine too, one I've started recently is this..

Get two chairs and do 100 push ups, as soon as you get tired stop and do crunches until you get tired from crunches then go back to push ups until you can hit 100 push ups straight.

What are the two chairs for?

Milla 01-12-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
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Originally Posted by Stammer
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Originally Posted by Milla
Also butters when you do your crunches, and push ups do 10 of each EVERY hour. And for every hour you miss make it up at night. I'm not saying count the hours your asleep either happy:

Yeahs that's a good routine too, one I've started recently is this..

Get two chairs and do 100 push ups, as soon as you get tired stop and do crunches until you get tired from crunches then go back to push ups until you can hit 100 push ups straight.

What are the two chairs for?

ROFL! i was wondering where the punchline was for the chairs lol!

Anyway just do it pyramid style, do like 20 puch ups, than take a 30 second break than go down one or 2 push ups each time. Than build your way back up. The thing is NEVER quit, do as many as you can. That will get your blood pumping happy:

Mr.Buttocks 01-12-2006 03:58 PM

THINK AGAIN!

Poseidon 01-12-2006 04:03 PM

When I was at the RAF careers office, they basically told me to fuck off and come back when I had put on 1.5 stone cry:

Trunks 01-12-2006 05:00 PM

What I reccomend, if you wanna lose weight, first and foremost, do it the healthy way, or you will regret it later on. 2 pounds a week would be best, 4-5 at max. If you are serious about it I would talk to a professional. Take the words "sweets" out of your dailogue. What are you having for desert? Fruit. Also, if possible, try to eat 5-6 small meals a day. Always leave the table feeling a little hungry. That is healthy. I also reccomend drinking water. It has no calories, etc, and is great when you want to lose weight. As for puhsups, the certainly are the old fashioned way. I would say, do as many reps as you can, and have a total of 3 sets or so. Same with crunches. Also, don't walk. If you are going to do a mile, you might as well jog/run it. I would rotate. Monday, crunches and pushups. Tuesday, running. Don't overdo it, your body needs about 48 hours to recover. Also, I find music really helps when excercising, but maybe thats just me.


As for joining a branch of the military. Only do it if this is truly something you want to do. Because, fact is, we live in an unstable world. Don't screw yourself into thinking you are invincible/won't die or whatever. The military is a hard road, and as others said, the pay literally sucks(no offense to anyone), and benefits aren't fabulous either. However, if you are set on this, I wish you the best of luck.

Milla 01-12-2006 05:23 PM

All bull shit aside butters. It is fun at times (boring at most) but the fun times totally kill all the bad times that you have had. Plus it is cool seeing overseas places (even when they are shit holes). But i tell you what the first time and last time so far i have left the country for the marines was to Morocco. And i was scared shitless at first when they said our plane arrived and told us to board it. Because i didnt know what to expect. But omg that was the best time ever.

Airborne Butters 01-12-2006 05:27 PM

I'm pretty much doing most of that Trunks. I've actually just basically cut out breakfast and lunch. I only really eat dinner, and I keep that light, like no steaks or pork, just grilled chicken and such of that nature. I never really eat sweets myself.

I really want to whip myself into shape as soon as I can though. Someone even reccomended jogging on a treadmill with a trash bag on oOo:

I can't really jog that long either at the moment, but I usually jog, then walk a little, then jog some more.

Himmler 01-12-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trunks
Don't overdo it, your body needs about 48 hours to recover.

if you feel sore from lifting weights, that is a good thing and that is when you want to lift more weights in order for blood to get to the muscle and then it will start to grow. as long as it isnt painful to lift the weights but just sore and a little hard, then do it as much as you can.

TonyMontana 01-12-2006 05:38 PM

The worst thing to do is not eat. If you eat one meal a day you aren't getting the nutrients your body needs to keep healthy. You are actually hurting your body more.

Get on some Whey Protein shakes. Turn that unwanted fat into muscle. Keep your protein levels at 1g per lb of body weight.

Tuna/Chicken/Turkey is your best friend.

Rest in between weight training days. You don't want to hurt yourself.

If you do it right, you will lose most of your weight in the first couple of weeks of working out.

Cardio, Cardio, and more Cardio!

Oh, and good luck beer:

c312 01-12-2006 05:41 PM

^yeah, i find that lifting helps get rid of soreness. I used to lift weights after baseball practice if my arm was tired and sore and it help alleviate the soreness completely or made it go away quicker

TonyMontana 01-12-2006 05:45 PM

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Butters read over this. It will be very VERY helpful to your goals


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