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I saw an Ad from the Canadian election on the Cobert Report, basically saying that a vote for the Conseratives is going to give in to George Bush. It's so funny when all you have to say is "That guy wants to work with George Bush" to win an election.

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I hope they win...Id rather Green win over anything...but at the same time Marxist is fucking better than the conservatives.

[quote:0281b]but at the same time Marxist is fucking better than the conservatives.[/quote:0281b]

If you believe this then you're a fool who needs to read his history. Marxists WERENT on the right - they are the EXTREME left.

Christ.

And indeed - keep MARTIN in there. . .anything to further alienate CANADA away from the US is fine by me.

lol french.

Ha. No.

[quote="TGB!":a3322][quote:a3322]but at the same time Marxist is fucking better than the conservatives.[/quote:a3322]

If you believe this then you're a fool who needs to read his history. Marxists WERENT on the right - they are the EXTREME left.

Christ.[/quote:a3322]

I think he knows that. What he's saying is anyone, in his opinion, is better than the conservatives.

[quote:a3322]
And indeed - keep MARTIN in there. . .anything to further alienate CANADA away from the US is fine by me.[/quote:a3322] oOo:

[quote="TGB!":9af38]And indeed - keep MARTIN in there. . .anything to further alienate CANADA away from the US is fine by me.[/quote:9af38]

Its more like America alienating its self from the rest of the world.

Going to have to vote liberal, don't want a conservative majority.

do you beleive the chances of a conservative majority are that strong though ? harper fell from 46 percent into the 31 to 36 range.

I can see the headlines now,


Canada to become France Jr.

[quote="Short Hand":f01f0]do you beleive the chances of a conservative majority are that strong though ? harper fell from 46 percent into the 31 to 36 range.[/quote:f01f0]
Haven't seen the polls, but he is making headway in Quebec which scares me.

[quote="TGB!":bc9a1][quote:bc9a1]but at the same time Marxist is fucking better than the conservatives.[/quote:bc9a1]


And indeed - keep MARTIN in there. . .anything to further alienate CANADA away from the US is fine by me.[/quote:bc9a1]lol.

[quote=1080jibber]Its more like America alienating its self from the rest of the world.[/quote:bc9a1]

we dont need anyone else. it amazing how "the rest of the world" isnt alienated when they need military or monetary assistance.

[img]http://www.angus-reid.com/admin/collateral/images/uploads/polls/can_ekos0119.jpg[/img]


[quote:26bfc]Canada may elect the most pro-American leader in the Western world. Free-market economist Stephen Harper, leader of the opposition Conservative Party, is pro-free trade, pro-Iraq war, anti-Kyoto, and socially conservative. Move over Tony Blair: If elected, Mr. Harper will quickly become Mr. Bush's new best friend internationally and the poster boy for his ideal foreign leader. [/quote:26bfc]

http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/2 ... -4938r.htm

My vote doesn't matter at all. I live in Stephen Harper's riding. Probably the most conservative riding in the whole country.

So your voting for harper? eek:

Absolutley not.

I'm just saying it doesn't matter who I vote for, essentially my vote doesn't count.

To me the Conservatives are just the liberals on steroids. The conservatives will just accelerate what the liberals have been doing.

I would most likley vote CAP if they were represented in my riding. Since their not, my vote will most likley go to the NDP. I watched a debate at my college last week, and the green candidate impressed me as well.

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Con 38%
Lib 26%
NDP 19%

Seat projection
Con 143-147
BQ 59-63
Lib 59-63
NDP 39-43


A new national Ipsos Reid survey of 2000 Canadians, conducted for CanWest News Service/Global News from January 17-19th, frames the Conservatives holding 38% of federal votes (+1 point) and taking a 12-point lead over the Liberals (26%, -3 points) into the final election weekend. The NDP at 19% (+1 point) and the Green Party at 5% (unchanged) remain static in the polls.

Meanwhile, in Quebec, the Conservatives at 27% (+6 points) are now attracting nearly double the percentage of federal votes than are the Liberals (14%, -10 points) - the Bloc holds steady with 46% support (+3 points).

And while there has been speculation from many of a tightening vote scenario in the crucial province of Ontario, this trend does not appear evident: The Conservatives at 38% (-2 points) have maintained a lead (now at 4 points) over the Liberals (34%, -3 points) in this province. However, rising Liberal fortunes in the city of Toronto alone, which will not produce any new seats for the Party, has perhaps been at the root of this speculation.

Ipsos Reid's seat model projects that if a vote were held tomorrow, the Conservatives would have a potential of 143-147 seats, the Liberals would have a potential of 59-63 seats, the NDP would have a potential of 39-43 seats, and the Bloc Quebecois would have a potential of 59-63 seats. In order to achieve a majority government, a party needs a minimum of 155 seats in the House of Commons.

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=2948

LOL at the fact that "He is too Pro-American" is a means of political propaganda.

Who said that?

The quote I put up is from a washington times writer. oOo:

I didn't say anyone did it was right in your article

"the same voters who decided the last election, 17 months ago, following a Liberal campaign that successfully tarred Mr. Harper as "too pro-American."

He is, Harper has been known to talk frequently to right wing politicians in the U.S. A conservative think tank sent out an e-mail (last week) to all it's staff saying not to talk about the possibility of harper winning because it would expose ties with harper.. It was in the globe and mail today. oOo:

ugh.. if they bloc even ties a "semi" alliance with the conservatives.....

Won't happen.

let up hope so.

Going to vote right now.. biggrin:

All im hoping for is that if the Conservatives win...they at least try to do a good job...because they have a lot of prove because it won't take much to turn the GTA back on the Liberal side when the minority government is forced onto an election again.

I doubt Harper will get a majority win...and my vote essentially doens't count either as Brampton = immigrants = liberal vote.

Just got back from voting biggrin:

ahhhh. It feels good to be a Canadian

Kind of feel like I made the wrong choice, ah well.

Well looks like a consevative minority...ffs

It's not surprising Harper won after the Liberal scandal. It could have been worse though, it could have been a full out conservative majority in the Canadian parliament.

The thing is that the media isn't telling you the whole story. Paul Martin had nothing to do with this scandal, only memebers in the Chretien liberal era...the media doesn't tell you this shit and the conservatives spin it making it that it was all martins fault.

Welcome to the modern Media/Political think scape. Nuance is dead.

Not saying its new to me, just informing some of the readers about how media spins everything for the wrong reasons. And what the truth is in this matter.. Talking to some of my friends most of them voted conservatives, and they were going to vote NDP as well...

Oh yeah I know, it's the same over here. People don't bother to find out on their own instead they rely on the mostly bullshit fed to them by mass media and political spin. The society we live in doesn't promote being investigative, instead it promotes the "easy way".

For example...When Grover Cleavland was running for president, the hot button issue of the day that "divided the nation" was tariff reform. Now a-days it's gay marriage and abortion. People don't want to discuss things that matter they want to discuss things that are easy to understand and "sexy".

Meh...

Noam Chomsky wrote in one of his books that it was the duty of every citizen in a democratic nation to become informed about all the issues, and all you have to do is dig through some stuff on the net to reliable sources. Unfortunately people find this unecessary and turn to a source such as a newspaper which more or less is owned by a leading corporation.


Don't you love democracy, and where it's heading?

I ranted about this sort of stuff years back on this forum machette.. where did it get me ? To the position of one of the most hated members... I remember having 10 guys in any thread breathing down my neck for the liberal views I had / still have. (aka Noctis, Levingstein, Scrotum, TGB, colemon, Colonel, Comafuck, Eames, rdeyes, tomxr, chappy.............
.... that is just a few of them rolleyes: .....)

Paul Martin was a part of the Chretien Government as Finance Minister from 1993-2002.

The election seemed to me to play out much like the US election minus the great number of vote manipulation etc.

People in the states voted for Kerry because they didn't like bush, not because they liked kerry.

People in Canada voted for Harper because they wanted to punish the liberals, or were tired of "corruption" in government and wated a change, not because they thought Harper and the conservatives were the best party to run the country.

And most canadian citizens don't know or realize this.