Al Qaeda, 3/11 and 7/7
 

Turns out they were involved in neither like 99% of people believe.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/s ... ?gusrc=rss
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... &cset=true

Negative, registered utilities only, all others disallowed, disengaging target Whiskey Tango Foxtrot and returning to checkpoint Black Night.

[quote:2d5bc]although the four men were also driven by the promise of immortality.[/quote:2d5bc]
lol

ninty you saying what I think your trying to say? happy:

Yeah, probably.

In addition to that though, when the events occur many reports come out saying "believed to be linked to al qaeda" and "has the halmarks of an al qaeda attack". Then 2 years later it's quietly released that al qaeda had nothing to do with anything, yet people still believe they do.

I recall after the 7/7 bombing a guy from my work was over and he said somehting to the extent "we should just wipe the whole middle east out". Now that guy is still walking around with that attitude still thinking that there was a middle east connection. His opinion is based upon falsified information, which I would say most of the populations opinion on these things are based upon falsified information.

To be honest, I would never take the connection into assumption, I just wouldn't be surprised if it turned out so.

eek:

If you can't answer that you may have to look over ninty's past post on 9/11.
It's hard to believe you guys don't get that.

yeah, it's just so obvious....that's why ninty himself responded with such a definite "Yeah, probably..." rolleyes:

of course I'm assuming you guys are blaming GWB or the CIA or MI5 or whoever for these attacks as usual....is that what you're trying to say?

AL KIIDAA

[quote="Eight Ace":93f6c]yeah, it's just so obvious....that's why ninty himself responded with such a definite "Yeah, probably..." rolleyes:

of course I'm assuming you guys are blaming GWB or the CIA or MI5 or whoever for these attacks as usual....is that what you're trying to say?[/quote:93f6c]That's what I was thinking, government involvement. Ninty hinted at it a majority of times in his past post. If you didn't think that was obvious, I'm sorry but you just don't pay attention.

[quote=Machette]That's what I was thinking, government involvement. Ninty hinted at it a majority of times in his past post. If you didn't think that was obvious, I'm sorry but you just don't pay attention.[/quote:3fe28]

Short Hand got it. happy:

Don't blame me if you are unable to communicate clearly,

also how come you experts are ignoring this kind of information:

"Detectives investigating the 7 July bombings in London are trying to establish how one of the four-man gang
involved in the attack managed to amass a personal fortune of £121,000 while working part-time in a chip shop.

The revelation fuels speculation that the bomb gang received outside financial assistance to mount their attacks.

The net value of 22-year-old Shehzad Tanweer's estate was more than double the £55,000 compensation amputees
will receive after the attack, and more than ten times the £11,000 that bereaved families can expect.

In July, The Scotsman revealed that the Pakistani security services suspected Tanweer, who killed seven
people in the attack on Aldgate Tube station, had attended a religious school run by the terrorist group
Lashkar-e-Taiba during a visit to the country. He is believed to have received terrorist training during
his time in Pakistan.

Earlier this week, it was claimed that the London bomb attacks had cost only a few hundred pounds to stage.
That assessment, however, was strongly disputed by terrorism experts including Professor Paul Wilkinson,
of St Andrews University, who maintained that the bombers must have received training and assistance from abroad."



[url=http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=26402006:d7883]Article[/url:d7883]


anyone thinking what I think I'm thinking? eek:

I don't agree with some of the things ninty says about 9/11, unfortunately, so please don't put me in the same boat with him. I do believe certain things were out of order in 9/11 but I'm not entirely sure that the government or any agency did that. Also the same thing with the London bombings.

I'm not an expert and i'm not ignoring information. I don't claim to know everything about everything, nor do I claim to know exactly what happened during any of these events. The main purpose of posting this topic was to show that most people wrongly believe certain organizations carried out these attacks when the governments have said otherwise. Whether or not i believe so and so carried them out doesn't really matter at this point. Were all pretty much set in our ways here, so i'm not going to change anyones mind.

Who told you 99% of people assumed al qaeda were directly involved?
....aren't you always saying they are an American invention anyway?

If this one guy went to Pakistan and attended fundamentalist institutions then it is likely
to be the group laskar e toiba as the article suggests, just as if he went to indonesia
he would be linking up with jamai islamia, or abu sayyef in the phillipines etc.

They are all islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups, that probably agree 100% with al qaeda,
or even just the idea of al qaeda....so do you really think it's a big deal to say "ooh look,
al qeada isn't really involved"...as if that is the key fact, or could even be proved,
or bring back the victims...or somehow mean George Bush was the bomber.

rolleyes:

I didn't say 99%.

I think it is safe to assume, as I said, that most people thought al qaeda were responsible since that has been the story in the media for 2 years.

Remember all the stuff about al quaeda bombing the madrid station to get their forces out of iraq?

and your right, I don't believe that al qaeda exists as they are protrayed. If there is indeed an al qaeda, I would be willing to bet they are a controlled asset of the CIA and MI6. However, since the propaganda machine just rolls this stuff out, i'm also willing to bet that the majority of people believe that al qaeda does indeed exist.

The reason it is a big deal is because the british and american government will try to connect al qaeda to as many wrong doings as possible in order to justify their current foreign policy.

Al qaeda is the boogeyman. All the government has to do is utter those words and people will run crying to the government to save them.

"Al Qaeda, 3/11 and 7/7

Turns out they were involved in neither like 99% of people believe."

rolleyes:

Re: Al Qaeda, 3/11 and 7/7
 

double post, but..erm...so there!

my mistake. however, the point still stands. are you trying to argue that most people do not believe al qaeda carried out the attacks?

are you trying to argue that because you think al qaeda = CIA, then all the terrorist
groups thoughout the world and their activities and influences are imaginary?

I'm not trying to argue that AQ=CIA. That's just what I see being most probable. I'm saying that media and the government manipulate information to suit their needs. In this case al qaeda was blamed for two attacks. As a result this would create the largest outcry from the populations

you're wrong, to come out and blame muslims believing in fundamentalist islam would create the largest outcry from the populations.

ok

lol...it can never be fault of them...it always has to be someone else.

Why would USA not be seen as perfect as they are obvioslly perfect...same with Britain.

Everybody is evil...we were born this way.

HITLAAR WASNT GERMAN!