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Nyck 05-15-2006 08:37 AM

da vinci
 
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/ ... index.html
" PARIS, France (Reuters) -- The popularity of The Da Vinci Code is a shocking indication of both mass ignorance and the "voluptuous pleasure" the media take in promoting works with no basis in truth, the Vatican's culture minister says."

news flash
ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE TRUTH ITS A FUCKING FICTION NOVEL

ffs rolleyes:

Machette 05-15-2006 09:42 AM

Well the whole thing at the beginning of the novel makes everyone think. The theory has been debunked by numerous scholars. It's just something that we all want to believe is true..when it's not.

bukdez 05-15-2006 10:10 AM

wait...

the vatican is worried about the truth?... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!...

c312 05-15-2006 10:30 AM

The problem that the church has with it is that people are reading it and actually taking it as truth. Dan Brown said it's fiction and it is to be read as fiction, but the readers are taking fact away from the book, and the facts they are taking aren't facts. Ultimately it ends up confusing readers who are too ignorant to look into the issue. That's the church's problem with it, not so much how it was written, but how it is read.

Jin-Roh 05-15-2006 10:37 AM

I say GF1 writes the Newer Testament.

Machette 05-15-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bukdez
wait...

the vatican is worried about the truth?... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!...

+1

snipes 05-15-2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by c312
The problem that the church has with it is that people are reading it and actually taking it as truth. Dan Brown said it's fiction and it is to be read as fiction, but the readers are taking fact away from the book, and the facts they are taking aren't facts. Ultimately it ends up confusing readers who are too ignorant to look into the issue. That's the church's problem with it, not so much how it was written, but how it is read.

Didn't Dan Brown claim his book wasn't fiction? If he did, he's pretty smart imo.. causing controversy to skyrocket his book sales.

Milla 05-15-2006 01:31 PM

Im in the middle of reading it right now, its pretty damn good.

Coleman 05-15-2006 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Milla
Im in the middle of reading it right now, its pretty damn good.

i'm in the middle of listening to it. Gotta love torrents of audio books biggrin: biggrin: biggrin:

Machette 05-15-2006 01:35 PM

oOo:

Coleman 05-15-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
oOo:

oh hush you happy:

Machette 05-15-2006 01:41 PM

happy:

Trunks 05-15-2006 01:44 PM

Most of the things Brown states are based on facts. And he draws conclusions based on those facts. And in the very beggining of the book, Brown ackowledges that the story is fictional, but the facts presented are true, for the most part.

All these scholars debunking Brown, are wasting their time. None of us were alive 2000 years ago, so none of us knows, and will never know, the truth. The church is just upset because Brown lets people know little known facts which the church doesn't like. Once the church starts fessing up to all the times its f-cked up in history, then maybe ill actually listen to what they have to say. till then.

KTOG 05-15-2006 01:46 PM

some time i confuse The DaVinci Code with The Bible...i really don't know why.

RaNgeR 05-15-2006 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KTOG
some time i confuse The DaVinci Code with The Bible...i really don't know why.

happy:

Simo Häyhä 05-15-2006 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Milla
Im in the middle of reading it right now, its pretty damn good.

I stayed up from 1:30am till 10:00am reading!
I'm on chapter 80. this is such a good novel!!!

c312 05-16-2006 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trunks
Most of the things Brown states are based on facts. And he draws conclusions based on those facts. And in the very beggining of the book, Brown ackowledges that the story is fictional, but the facts presented are true, for the most part.

All these scholars debunking Brown, are wasting their time. None of us were alive 2000 years ago, so none of us knows, and will never know, the truth. The church is just upset because Brown lets people know little known facts which the church doesn't like. Once the church starts fessing up to all the times its f-cked up in history, then maybe ill actually listen to what they have to say. till then.

Examples of so called facts plz.

CoMaToSe 05-16-2006 01:22 AM

I thought the book was 'eh'. Writing wasnt that great, it held my attention to the end, tho. I'll see the movie.

ANd FFS PALPATINE, ITS JUST A MOVIE!! oOo:

Zap. USMC 05-16-2006 03:31 AM

good book, you guys should definatly read Angels and Demons and Deception Point.. other good books by Dan Brown.

Trunks 05-16-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by c312
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Originally Posted by Trunks
Most of the things Brown states are based on facts. And he draws conclusions based on those facts. And in the very beggining of the book, Brown ackowledges that the story is fictional, but the facts presented are true, for the most part.

All these scholars debunking Brown, are wasting their time. None of us were alive 2000 years ago, so none of us knows, and will never know, the truth. The church is just upset because Brown lets people know little known facts which the church doesn't like. Once the church starts fessing up to all the times its f-cked up in history, then maybe ill actually listen to what they have to say. till then.

Examples of so called facts plz.

my copy of the da vinci code is being borrowed my somebody who wants to read it before seeing the movie friday. Ill have it back by fri night, and ill be happy to pm you some of the facts, along with page numbers from the book, and sources that support the facts, etc. If youd like a list of Church fuck ups too, just know itll take me a while to type em all up...

Zap, how is deception point? i heard it was one of Brown's worser novels. I wanted to get it, but after reading some reviews of it, I'm not so sure.

Machette 05-16-2006 03:52 PM

I mean maybe it's because I'm a atheist that the claims are outrageous, to me. 60 minutes ran a piece 2 weeks ago and they proved one of the da vinci codes theory, wrong. It was about that church in france or where ever and the preist suddenly got a shitload of money. Turns out the guy who created the story had mental problems. I forget the rest of the story but it was pretty much debunked. Like I said maybe it's just because I'm a atheist. All these conspiracy theories on religion that are coming out are pretty laughable. We all want to believe that jesus has a blood line because people like hearing that stuff.

Simo Häyhä 05-16-2006 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMaToSe
I thought the book was 'eh'. Writing wasnt that great, it held my attention to the end, tho. I'll see the movie.

ANd FFS PALPATINE, ITS JUST A MOVIE!! oOo:

wtf?
Who the fuck are you? Your opinion is false.

c312 05-16-2006 07:26 PM

I haven't read the novel, but I know that at the core is the notion that Mary Magdalene had children with Jesus. There is no evidence to suggest that and people have debunked it many times over.

And Machette, you're exactly right, people want to believe this stuff so badly, and that's part of why this is such a big deal.

Trunks 05-16-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by c312
I haven't read the novel, but I know that at the core is the notion that Mary Magdalene had children with Jesus. There is no evidence to suggest that and people have debunked it many times over.

Honestly, you should. If anything, its a good read. Doesn't mean you have to take it seriously. I'm a taoist, I still read books on religion, etc. True there is little to no evidence, most of what Brown has is speculation. But he makes interesting points. And a lot of it doesn't even have to do with Mary, I mean thats the main idea behind the book but Brown fills it up with so many other facts/ideas too.

And if anything, its the fact that people don't want to believe it, so badly. I mean seriously. Think about it. Priests aren't allowed to marry/engage in sexual intercourse, but the human incarnate of god himself is? If it were proven true, it could shatter people's belief in the teachings of their religion.
Which is why, people don't liek to think about it.

c312 05-16-2006 07:59 PM

No, but the thing on the other side is that a lot of the readers are atheists thinking it will disprove Christianity, those are the people who want it to be true, and those are the people who are taking it as fact. (a lot of them at least)

ANd yes, I did hear it is a very good book.

Machette 05-16-2006 08:17 PM

Guess I'm the only one who didn't like it. Dull characters..bad dialogue. And I don't mind thrillers. The stuff by frederick forsyth is great - the jackal, odessa files.

Madmartagen 05-16-2006 08:27 PM

i thought da vinci code and angels & demons were good books, but the author kills the ending in both books

CoMaToSe 05-17-2006 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Machette
Guess I'm the only one who didn't like it. Dull characters..bad dialogue. And I don't mind thrillers. The stuff by frederick forsyth is great - the jackal, odessa files.

I didnt like it either. But apparently my Opine is "false" rolleyes:

Short Hand 05-17-2006 12:16 AM

Intresting story, (intrique and such) bad litrature period.

Simo Häyhä 05-17-2006 01:05 AM

Man you guys are hard to please.
Nothing but Dickens and Shakespear will do for you

Eight Ace 05-17-2006 02:35 AM

[quote="Short Hand":a8ebb]Intresting story, (intrique and such) bad litrature period.[/quote:a8ebb]
at least he got a lot of the spelling right.... ban:


..but you're right, this story would sell itself. as it did in that Holy Blood, Holy Grail book apparently,
Brown just sugar coated the theory and hit the jackpot...the movie is getting panned but the writing
was more like a screenplay anyway so everyones going to see it.

CoMaToSe 05-17-2006 03:29 AM

[quote="Simo Häyhä":30002]Man you guys are hard to please.
Nothing but Dickens and Shakespear will do for you[/quote:30002]
boring cunts. Give me Kafka and Camus

Machette 05-17-2006 10:47 AM

hahaha

http://newsbusters.org/stories/dv.html?q=node/5402


rock:

Madmartagen 05-17-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Machette

LOL

Trunks 05-17-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmartagen
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Originally Posted by Machette

LOL

happy:

Nyck 05-17-2006 01:11 PM

rofl @ magneto

CoMaToSe 05-17-2006 02:32 PM

heh, hes partially right (about audience response, not the bible disclaimer)

SoLiDUS 05-17-2006 06:17 PM

Magneto has too much faith in humanity. annoy:

Simo Häyhä 05-17-2006 06:27 PM

[quote=CoMaToSe]
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Originally Posted by "Simo Häyhä":907bc
Man you guys are hard to please.
Nothing but Dickens and Shakespear will do for you

boring cunts. Give me Kafka and Camus[/quote:907bc]
Everyone here hates you. So you dont count as a person

Machette 05-17-2006 08:02 PM

[quote="Simo Häyhä":43f41][quote=CoMaToSe]
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Originally Posted by "Simo Häyhä":43f41
Man you guys are hard to please.
Nothing but Dickens and Shakespear will do for you

boring cunts. Give me Kafka and Camus[/quote:43f41]
Everyone here hates you. So you dont count as a person[/quote:43f41]
Well said.

Also most of the critics are calling the movie trash.


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