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gtboys34 07-28-2006 10:38 AM

Exxon robbing ya'll blind
 
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/27/ ... on-profit/

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/ar ... 7exxon.htm

gawd damn! thoughts? opinions? deaththreats?

Milla 07-28-2006 10:39 AM

I dont buy from Exxon anyway, shisters.

gtboys34 07-28-2006 10:40 AM

..looks like dude is hiding a few barrels in his chin.. or maybe that's just pita bread

i also found 1 article where it said they were making upwards of $1300.00 per second ed:

Eames 07-28-2006 10:48 AM

its getting fucking ridiculous, sometthing needs to be done. any of yall see that discovery channel documentary "addicted to oil"?

gtboys34 07-28-2006 10:49 AM

nah, i saw a similar doc on cnn though. forgot the name of it..

Milla 07-28-2006 10:50 AM

Yup, there needs to be a price cap on gas, at 1.80 a gallon, because thats what its fucking worth, i remember payiong 1.36 a gallon 2-3 years ago, gas is about a dollar and some change over priced.

ninty 07-28-2006 10:54 AM

They can charge more at the pump because we all have this idea instilled in out minds that there is less oil to go around and more demand.

Personally I reject the idea that there isn't enough oil and see it as OPEC/oil companies justification for gouging customers.

Anyway, theres no real alternative. Other forms of energy are suppressed so the only viable option people have is the reliance on oil which means more moeny for the top dogs.

Milla 07-28-2006 10:55 AM

I cant wait for Hydrogen loney:

lasagna 07-28-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
They can charge more at the pump because we all have this idea instilled in out minds that there is less oil to go around and more demand.

Personally I reject the idea that there isn't enough oil and see it as OPEC/oil companies justification for gouging customers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OPEC
There is no shortage in oil supply. The current geopolitical conditions are out of OPEC's hands


BlackJackal 07-28-2006 11:16 AM

[img]http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/exxon.jpg[/img]

ninty 07-28-2006 11:16 AM

Majority of US oil does not come from the middle east. Canada and Venezuela are the major suppliers of Oil to the US. OPEC has a monopoly over world oil. they can set any price they want.

Hydrogen is highly impractical because it is a means of energy storage, not an energy source. To create a hydrogen you need a source. Solar power for example. But since solar energy is not nearly as concentrated as oil, theres no way to gather enough of the energy to produce the hydrogen. Thus you need another energy source.

You can't just pull hydrogen out and put it in a tank. It had to be made for lack of a better term. In order to make it you need an energy source, like oil.

gtboys34 07-28-2006 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJackal
[img]http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/exxon.jpg[/img]

LOL!

i can gurantee you that hydrogen is exxon's kryptonite

Zoner 07-28-2006 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJackal
[img]http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/exxon.jpg[/img]

I always said that dude looked like Paul Bearer.

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b231/catullus_5/assorted/bearer01.jpg[/img]

Sgt. Paine 07-28-2006 11:25 AM

my parents invested in them, they are very happy.

gtboys34 07-28-2006 11:26 AM

[quote="Sgt. Paine":cf9fd]my parents invested in them, they are very happy.[/quote:cf9fd]

oilmoney

[DAS REICH] Blitz 07-28-2006 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
I cant wait for Hydrogen loney:


descry 07-28-2006 11:41 AM

i saw somewhere how much the CEO makes a day..dont remember how much, but it was more than most make in a year.

Coleman 07-28-2006 11:46 AM

my brother said he read that Exxon makes $1300/sec ed:

Eames 07-28-2006 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleman
my brother said he read that Exxon makes $1300/sec ed:

i wish i could be exon for a day...

Sniper101 07-28-2006 11:54 AM

a day would be great...lets see thats...$112,320,000...I can live with that

TGB! 07-28-2006 11:59 AM

[quote:b0c83]Personally I reject the idea that there isn't enough oil and see it as OPEC/oil companies justification for gouging customers.[/quote:b0c83]

What do you know the oil executives and petroleum experts dont know? Its not whether or not there is enough oil to go around "today" (there is) - it when and how soon will each of the major oil producers "top out". The US already did - it is inevitable that others will as well.

[quote:b0c83]Other forms of energy are suppressed[/quote:b0c83]

Bullshit they are. Ethanol cars are peaking around the world and within 5 to 10 years youre going to see car manufacturers offering ETHA and BUTANOL cars as standard. Noone is suppresing ANYTHING, least of all fuel alternatives. Its just that people ARENT BUYING.

Proteus 07-28-2006 12:51 PM

Uuuum, I don't care if it's legal, they're all fucking douchebags. I vote for assassinations.

ninty 07-28-2006 01:01 PM

i understand oil prices are based on futures, however that doesn't excuse the fact that companies use peak oil as a ploy to increase profits by cutting production.

http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/energy/fs/

Kids can make a 50mpg car that runs on soy, the major car manufacturers could do the same and should infact be able to beat that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/ ... 9941.shtml

Jin-Roh 07-28-2006 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proteus
Uuuum, I don't care if it's legal, they're all fucking douchebags. I vote for assassinations.

I'll make assassinations legal if you vote for me in 2038.

TGB! 07-28-2006 01:31 PM

[quote:8a3e4]"They're making billions upon billions of dollars," he says. "And when this car sells, that'll go down — to low billions upon billions."[/quote:8a3e4]

Sophomoric response and the typical "blame game" anti-oil (and by extension, anti-American-Conservative) "activists" lob out there. Noone FORCES you to buy gasoline. Regulating oil prices in the united states because you dont want to pay 3 bucks at the tank (or 10 bucks american in the UK) is bullshit and anti-capatalism and would only HURT consumners in the long run. Whats next, regulating the price of a pair of sneakers? Of internet access? How about we start regulating the price of goods in YOUR service industry - see how long you keep your job then.

The oil companies arent the problem. Consumners are.

Jin-Roh 07-28-2006 01:37 PM

[quote="TGB!":3282c]The oil companies arent the problem. Consumners are.[/quote:3282c]

+1

It all has to do with Galbraith / Achenbaum / Friedman. I forgot which one is which. biggrin:

ninty 07-28-2006 02:53 PM

I'm not advocating regulation. The problem I have is businesses and unethical behaviour by using scarcity to drive up prices. They can set any price they want, however there are limited alternatives to consumers due to the monopoly over the market. Capitalism is about competition to drive down prices and give consumers viable options which is the opposite of how the industry works.

Madmartagen 07-28-2006 02:58 PM

i think they should be able to charge whatever they want for gas because people are going to pay for it. i just think its funny to see the execs sweat when they have to explain to everyone about profits.

c312 07-28-2006 03:20 PM

Didn't the SEC or some commission investigate Exxon and determine they hadn't been doing anything illegal?

Proteus 07-28-2006 03:57 PM

[quote="TGB!":74db7][quote:74db7]"They're making billions upon billions of dollars," he says. "And when this car sells, that'll go down — to low billions upon billions."[/quote:74db7]

Sophomoric response and the typical "blame game" anti-oil (and by extension, anti-American-Conservative) "activists" lob out there. Noone FORCES you to buy gasoline. Regulating oil prices in the united states because you dont want to pay 3 bucks at the tank (or 10 bucks american in the UK) is bullshit and anti-capatalism and would only HURT consumners in the long run. Whats next, regulating the price of a pair of sneakers? Of internet access? How about we start regulating the price of goods in YOUR service industry - see how long you keep your job then.

The oil companies arent the problem. Consumners are.
[/quote:74db7]

Gas is a necessity in many North American lives. They can't just not buy gas.

TGB! 07-28-2006 05:35 PM

[quote:a685d]The problem I have is businesses and unethical behaviour by using scarcity to drive up prices.[/quote:a685d]

Thats not unethical. They simply control the flow and access of it. "Price fixing" IS illegal, and as far as we know, this isnt the cause of the "high" price of gas. Thats like saying its illegal to charge an high dollar amount for a celebrities signature - because of the scarcity of the product. The star COULD release more of these things into the market, but why should they? This assumes - of course - the practice is even widespread.

[quote:a685d]They can set any price they want, however there are limited alternatives to consumers due to the monopoly over the market.[/quote:a685d]

No there arent. There ARE alternatives (purchasing a more fuel effecient car, purchasing a HYBRID car if they are available in the area, demanding congress and automakers invest in alterna-fuel infrastructure so that these ethanol and electric cars are more readily available, take public transportation, carpooling, etc.) - but people dont want to be "inconvenienced". Bullshit. Unless there is no public transport, unless there are no hybrid dealerships, unless you know NOONE who works in your same area - then you ARENT out of options.

[quote:a685d]Capitalism is about competition to drive down prices and give consumers viable options which is the opposite of how the industry works.[/quote:a685d]

Competition and the natural byproduct of reduced prices is a result of capatalism. Not the POINT. The point of capatalism is a FREE MARKET.

[quote:a685d]Gas is a necessity in many North American lives. They can't just not buy gas.[/quote:a685d]

Gas is neccessary if one feels it is neccessary to drive a car. Americans have precious little use or concern for gas OTHER than that.

Sniper101 07-28-2006 07:56 PM

its definately not a matter of technology...my GREATgrandfather remembers riding in one of those "mobster" cars, metal boxes weighing in at 4 tons with an egine and 4 wheels, with 80 miles to the gallon when he was 12, so that back in the 1920's

Simo Häyhä 07-29-2006 04:55 AM

[quote="TGB!":78282][quote:78282]

[quote:78282]Other forms of energy are suppressed[/quote:78282]

Bullshit they are. Ethanol cars are peaking around the world and within 5 to 10 years youre going to see car manufacturers offering ETHA and BUTANOL cars as standard. Noone is suppresing ANYTHING, least of all fuel alternatives. Its just that people ARENT BUYING.
[/quote:78282][/quote:78282]
LIES, ANDERSON! LIES

Ethanol that could be imported from Brazil suffers a %100 tariff imposed by the US Govt. The US gives billions of dollars in subsidies to the oil industry but barely pays a dime to any developing technologies such as solar energy and wind power. If this isn't suppression i don't know what is

Simo Häyhä 07-29-2006 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper101
its definately not a matter of technology...my GREATgrandfather remembers riding in one of those "mobster" cars, metal boxes weighing in at 4 tons with an egine and 4 wheels, with 80 miles to the gallon when he was 12, so that back in the 1920's

lol, idiot

Sniper101 07-29-2006 01:35 PM

who calling an idiot


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