I can prove evolution is a myth
 

[url:4e8f1]http://www.glumbert.com/media/peanutbutter[/url:4e8f1]

This also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGMuIyBK5P4

This makes me want to eat a banana with peanut butter mmmmmmmmmm

what a crock of sh**

/clears throat




BOLLOCKS


annoy:

LOL I've seen the banana thing before. "Even the shape of the banana allows the entire process to be that much easier." No GTFO plz.

I do think Evolution is BS though. Natural selection is perfectly fine with me, and it makes sense. Even with natural selection you still retain the same species. I don't buy that humans evolve from something else or a fish is created from some amoeba. I don't buy that you get a new species from an existing one, without some type of intervention (cross-multi-breeding, for example).

[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":45e21]
I do think Evolution is BS though. Natural selection is perfectly fine with me, and it makes sense.[/quote:45e21]
umm... natural selection is the process through which evolution takes place... you cant say you think evolution is BS, but agree with natural selection, stupid: but you can say it the other way around,
natural selection is a theory to EXPLAIN how evolution takes place

What a pile of shit.

Craving a peanut butter sammich now...dammit.

[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":26b99]
I do think Evolution is BS though. Natural selection is perfectly fine with me, and it makes sense. Even with natural selection you still retain the same species. I don't buy that humans evolve from something else or a fish is created from some amoeba. I don't buy that you get a new species from an existing one, without some type of intervention (cross-multi-breeding, for example).[/quote:26b99]

I guess then you don't understand genetics, and how every member of a species isn't an exact duplicate of every other member of it's species.

[quote=jujumantb]umm... natural selection is the process through which evolution takes place... you cant say you think evolution is BS, but agree with natural selection, stupid: but you can say it the other way around,
natural selection is a theory to EXPLAIN how evolution takes place[/quote:31a97]

I suppose you could say that is a type of evolution, but evolution in the way that people talk refers to apes turning into humans. Natural selection is simply a survival mechanism of a certain species. Examples are moths in London, changing from a white to black, to better suit themselves in the new urban environment experienced in the Second Industrial Revolution. The white moths kept being eaten because they stood out from the soot-covered buildings. That species type dwindled, leaving the black species to thrive in that particular environment.

Other examples are long-necked giraffes. Giraffes used to have relatively short necks. Through a natural process of birth (genetics just as the guy above me wrote), some giraffes developed longer necks. It enabled them to reach taller trees to gain more food once the food lower ran out. They survived, and through a long period of time, naturally they were the ones to reproduce, sending that genetic trait to their offspring.

In the end, they are still giraffes. They didn't morph into some other species. That's the distinction between natural selection and evolution. If you want to be technical, yes, natural selection is evolution, in the sense that a species adapts to an environment, and eventually changes. But scientists don't use that term in that sense. They use it to describe a complete species change. That is what I think is BS.

But why couldn't a whole species change after millions and millions of years? Your moth example is just a few hundred years of "evolution". Why can't that happen multiple times being compounded over the millions of years to create "new" species?

Creationism doens't explain life either.

so either way...why bother giving a shit and just live?

^ Agreed. eek:

[quote=jujumantb]umm... natural selection is the process through which evolution takes place... you cant say you think evolution is BS, but agree with natural selection, stupid: but you can say it the other way around,
natural selection is a theory to EXPLAIN how evolution takes place[/quote:eb948]

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution:eb948]Macroevolution[/url:eb948] vs. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microevolution:eb948]Microevolution[/url:eb948]

[quote=c312][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution:26877]Macroevolution[/url:26877] vs. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microevolution:26877]Microevolution[/url:26877][/quote:26877]ugh, i saw that and thought economics

Bananas evolved to fit us. calmdown:

GOD IS A BANANA

JEWS DID 9/11

now I want a naner

This guy is pretty funny:

[url:7298a]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ENEF3OoS-U&mode=related&search=[/url:7298a]

[quote=c312][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution:155dc]Macroevolution[/url:155dc] vs. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microevolution:155dc]Microevolution[/url:155dc][/quote:155dc]
it doesnt matter, natural selection is the ONLY process which needs to function for speciation to occur.
on another somewhat related note, i took an intermediate evolutionary biology course last semester and you wouldnt believe how much upper level math is needed to compute allele frequencies and shit through generations ed: dont take anything like it unless you need to...

[quote="Simo Häyhä":d995f]GOD IS A BANANA

JEWS DID 9/11[/quote:d995f]NO JEWS

[quote=jujumantb]it doesnt matter, natural selection is the ONLY process which needs to function for speciation to occur.
on another somewhat related note, i took an intermediate evolutionary biology course last semester and you wouldnt believe how much upper level math is needed to compute allele frequencies and shit through generations ed: dont take anything like it unless you need to...[/quote:8802f]

But there's a difference in believing that natural selection led to adaptive changes within a species and believing that natural selection led to changes from a species to a new species.

well, to a biologist that wouldnt make sense.

lets first define what a species is, which a commonly accepted definition is "a reproductively isolated population". now, with this definition, all it takes for a new species to arise is to have those "adaptive changes" you state change their reproductive status within a population. Generally, this occurs through whats called speciation where a single reproductively isolated population is divided for a number of reasons into two or more populations.

Over many generations, these two populations will go through natural selection in their environments (your "adaptive changes") and eventually lose the ability or drive to breed with eachother. Thus, even if those populations were reintroduced with eachother, they would not breed, and, according to the defition of a species, we end up with one or more new species.

As this happens over billions of years, we get that branching effect with more and more variance and more and more species. We see how the only process identified here in the creation of new species is, in fact, natural selection (genetic drift too, but thats not important in this discussion)

So if you believe in natural selection, you really cannot present a good arguement about how you dont believe it can create new species.

[quote=c312]But there's a difference in believing that natural selection led to adaptive changes within a species and believing that natural selection led to changes from a species to a new species.[/quote:790f2]
Um, no. Natural selection is part of evolution, of how a single, advantageous feature in a species will soon become dominant in the gene pool leading to changes in the species wide phenotype

bananas would go extinct if it werent for the human race, and thats a fact. banana trees cannot reproduce without human interference.

that really has nothing to do with this topic, just a fun fact.

and i cant stand people like that...they go out of their way to "prove" that religion exists. who cares?

cats are evolving in Japan!

[img]http://content.ytmnd.com/content/c/f/5/cf5bf13ee5f03f6488a8a5b6b2d94e91.gif[/img]

That cat's evolving into a new type of penguin.

Evgeni Malkin?

well, to my knowledge, real wild bananas have seeds in the middle, thus, can reproduce. humans simply stumbled upon a mutant banana tree without seeds and began reproducing it artificially, so clearly, yes, the "human engineered" bananas would go extinct, but not wild bananas. same thing with grapes.

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":0e158][quote=c312][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution:0e158]Macroevolution[/url:0e158] vs. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microevolution:0e158]Microevolution[/url:0e158][/quote:0e158]ugh, i saw that and thought economics[/quote:0e158]

lmao me too glad im done with that shit now.

[quote=Pyro][quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":b6c86]ugh, i saw that and thought economics[/quote:b6c86]

lmao me too glad im done with that shit now.[/quote:b6c86]
im not glad im majoring in that...

yea, the bananas that we eat are seedless because they are triploid...again, random fact, not arguing with anything.

touche wikipedia banana article!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bananas

i never knew bananas could be so confusing, they must be sent from the heavens!

You guys are fucked in the head, you're making me feel like i should know random shit like this cuss: I mean what in gods name is a triploid?

triploid grass carp.

Triploid, as I understand it from the grass carp (fish) means that the species is genetically unable to reproduce. For example, with the grass carp, they put in triploid carp to eat abundant vegetation in ponds/lakes/etc but also to make sure the carp won't reproduce and take over the ecosystem (as they are known to do)

It's OK, you know a lot of shit about cars and guns, and know how to look like a cardboard cutout man. Those skills alone make up for any lack of knowledge.

have you ever taken elementary school level biology? you know like haploid and diploid? gametes (sex cells) are haploid so when they are fertilized they become diploid....well if there is a mistake in gamete production, one of the cells can become triploid and usually, like c312 said, they are infertile........yea im a bio major....

thats not exactly elementary school level...

ok, exaggeration....but its taught in all high schools in the united states....im pretty sure everyone has to take biology at least once in high school.