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geRV 05-15-2007 09:09 AM

Out with the old, in with the new
 
Or almost..

[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/size-compare.jpg[/img]

Power hungry bastard doesn't like my shuttle psu, seems im gonna have to buy a new one just to power this fucker. rolleyes:

Bucknub 05-15-2007 09:32 AM

Have you jerked off to it Gerv?

geRV 05-15-2007 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucknub
Have you jerked off to it Gerv?

After i get done with your pic... eek:

Coleman 05-15-2007 09:56 AM

gervis is made of magical money that replenishes itself.

1080jibber 05-15-2007 10:05 AM

you must have a lot of pc parts laying around. what do you do with all your old shit?

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 05-15-2007 10:08 AM

Nice Gerv, tho I'm a bit out on the computer lingo & graphics cards so I've no idea what that is but it looks mean!

My PC at home is 2ghz GF3 win xp 500mb ram & I thought I was uber leet. Now it's so out of date I can't even play bf1942 without lag. One of these days I'm gana buy a new PC & start gaming again- maybe... I wonder if a badazz laptop could handle new games?

ninty 05-15-2007 10:22 AM

How did you buy that gerv? All the reviews i've read haven't been very good. I love ATi also, but I think they hav etaken a shit with this one. Maybe better drivers will increase the performance, but as it stands now, for high res, I think 8800 wins hands down. And it's cheaper.

And what happens when the 2900xtx comes out? You gonna upgrade to that?

Nyck 05-15-2007 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
And what happens when the 2900xtx comes out? You gonna upgrade to that?

do we breathe air...duh

geRV 05-15-2007 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
How did you buy that gerv? All the reviews i've read haven't been very good. I love ATi also, but I think they hav etaken a shit with this one. Maybe better drivers will increase the performance, but as it stands now, for high res, I think 8800 wins hands down. And it's cheaper.

And what happens when the 2900xtx comes out? You gonna upgrade to that?

The performance problems so far seem to be totally driver related, guru 3d identified a bug where fsaa in game crippled performance, ati are aware of it and are working on a fix. The xtx will really be just 1 gig of ram and a slightly upped core speed, if ati shift to 65nm then it wont be as power hungry and possibly perform better, if that does happen ill sell this off and get the newer one (performance depending).



I was able to get the board working by disconnecting my dvd rom and 1 other hard drive so currently doing some testing. So far like guru 3d said im seeing a bug with performance in call of duty 2, x1900xt and 2900xt getting virtually the same performance.

ninty 05-15-2007 10:51 AM

well then i shall eagerly await the numbers when better drivers come out.

rudedog 05-15-2007 10:54 AM

Very nice GeRV, keep us updated.

geRV 05-15-2007 11:02 AM

Ok some benchmarks, theres a few that obviously shows that there has to be some kinda aa bug going on, all tests ran at 1920x1200 4xfsaa 16xhqaf: fx60 @ 2.8ghz

Company of Heroes Performance Test (demo version): Average 43,6 Min 17.4, Max 121.5 (x1900xt)

Company of Heroes Performance Test (demo version): Average 64.6, Min 30.5, Max 180.9 (2900xt)

2007-05-14 17:34:25 - cod2sp_s crossing the rhine (x1900xt)
Frames: 5218 - Time: 180000ms - Avg: 28.988 - Min: 15 - Max: 56 (vista 64)

2007-05-15 16:39:31 - cod2sp_s crossing the rhine (2900xt)
Frames: 5346 - Time: 180000ms - Avg: 29.700 - Min: 15 - Max: 57 (vista 64)

2007-05-14 17:43:00 - Quake4 air defense trenches (x1900xt)
Frames: 8181 - Time: 180000ms - Avg: 45.450 - Min: 13 - Max: 62 (vista 64)

2007-05-15 17:37:52 - Quake4 air defense trenches (2900xt)
Frames: 10473 - Time: 180000ms - Avg: 58.183 - Min: 32 - Max: 62 (vista 64)

Fear Performance Test: Average 42, Min 19, Max 95 (x1900xt)

Fear Performance Test: Average 51, Min 18 Max 99 (2900xt)


Half Life 2 Lost coast stress test 70.8fps (average) (x1900xt)

Half Life 2 Lost coast stress test 70.17fps (average) (2900xt)


Doom 3 54.2 fps (x1900xt)

Doom 3 70.5fps (2900xt)

I dunno how reliable these are as i think the card is just barely geting enough juice to run, notice how company of heroes seems to love vista though. In the benches i done in xp the performance for the x1900xt didn't even break 100fps in coh.


wangmark 06 (vista 64)

3DMark Score 5817 3DMarks (x1900xt)
SM 2.0 Score 2247 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 2557 Marks
CPU Score 1977 Marks


3DMark Score 9293 3DMarks (2900xt)
SM 2.0 Score 4219 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 4627 Marks
CPU Score 1952 Marks

Stammer 05-15-2007 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleman
gervis is made of magical money that replenishes itself.


Mr.Buttocks 05-15-2007 12:00 PM

How hefty a PSU are you going to need for that Geraldine?

geRV 05-15-2007 12:04 PM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":426dd]How hefty a PSU are you going to need for that Geraldine?[/quote:426dd]

oOo:

Dunno yet, was runnig 3d mark 05 and the system shut down, im on a 350 watt at the minute, id asume the shuttle 400watt psu could handle it.

ninty 05-15-2007 12:44 PM

didn't they recommend a 450w for the 1900xt series? i think it's pretty good you got it to run on a 350w.

geRV 05-15-2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1080jibber
you must have a lot of pc parts laying around. what do you do with all your old shit?

Usually sell it off or have a spare pc made out of it. My new ati card arrived today and so did a cooler i ordered a while back for my x1900.



[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/new-cooler.jpg[/img]

Unfortunately its too bulky to fit in my shuttle, prolly end up selling it of eventually.

geRV 05-15-2007 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
didn't they recommend a 450w for the 1900xt series? i think it's pretty good you got it to run on a 350w.


Yeah the shuittle psu's are very efficient, a 400 watt shuttle psu is more like a 600 watt desktop psu according to some people. Now ive to order up one of those tomorrow and hope it supplies enough power.

Simo Häyhä 05-15-2007 01:15 PM

800 watt psu is where its at these days. If you want your room to turn into a sauna happy:

strvs 05-15-2007 01:16 PM

I just got my computer built yesterday, i have an 8800GTS superclocked.. haven't had the chance to test it out because my optical drive is fucked, keeps screwing up reading cd's or having errors during installation. annoy:

geRV 05-15-2007 01:20 PM

[quote="Simo Häyhä":3ebf9]800 watt psu is where its at these days. If you want your room to turn into a sauna happy:[/quote:3ebf9]

Thats really why i got the shuttle, had a 3.2p4 @ 4ghz on watercooling, room was boiling, had crossfireed x1900's with a watercooled opteron 165, room was boiling. Now ive got the shuttle ive an inadequate powersupply to do the job, annoy:

Just hope this 400 watt is upto it as its supposed to be designed for multi gpu configs.

geRV 05-15-2007 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strvs
I just got my computer built yesterday, i have an 8800GTS superclocked.. haven't had the chance to test it out because my optical drive is fucked, keeps screwing up reading cd's or having errors during installation. annoy:

take a hatchet to the bastard.

What spec did you end up settling on anway?

ninty 05-15-2007 01:28 PM

Yeah, i have a 430w psu and my room gets smoking hot. on my next build i'm probably looking at a 750w. ed: want to put in some leeway, as my 430 isn't really enough for me to upgrade to a x1950pro agp at the moment. I think they recommend a 450w for that as well.

geRV 05-15-2007 01:32 PM

Friend of mine bought this pc

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... 81&subcat=

The case might look a bit "cheap" but it has some amazing cooling in it, bigass 200mm fan at the top of the case near the back, few large intakes and a large exhaust. You can put your hand on the grill of the fan and its really cold feling. Seems to do the job pretty well.

ninty 05-15-2007 01:34 PM

Thats the case I have planned to build my new rig in. That is unless something betters comes out between now and then.

geRV 05-15-2007 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
Thats the case I have planned to build my new rig in. That is unless something betters comes out between now and then.

Only prob with it is cable management, psu goes into the bottom of the case and there doesn't seem to be anywhere really to hide the wires.

http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _623lo.jpg

http://img12.imagevenue.com/view.php?im ... _963lo.jpg
top intake:

http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?im ... _597lo.jpg

Milla 05-15-2007 01:48 PM

Gerv i'll buy your vid card. Im in the market for one, i was looking at the 8600GTS (the DX10 card) because its like 179 (which is cheap) on newegg.com

ninty 05-15-2007 01:50 PM

That's something i hadn't considered. With th psu on the bottom, you're right, there's no place to hide the wires coming out of the psu. when it's on the top of the case, you can't see them. I suppose you could get them to run in one nice tight strand, and hide excess behind drive bays if there's room. Of if there's room between the motherboard tray and the back panel, could drill a hole and run them under the motherboard.

geRV 05-15-2007 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Gerv i'll buy your vid card. Im in the market for one, i was looking at the 8600GTS (the DX10 card) because its like 179 (which is cheap) on newegg.com


8600's a pile of dick, buy a 8800gts 320mb or something happy:

First dx 10 demo coming tonight, lost planet. happy:

Stammer 05-15-2007 02:48 PM

Is a Radeon X800 still considered 1337-hardware?

ninty 05-15-2007 02:55 PM

hah. i have same, and no. cuss:

Mr.Buttocks 05-15-2007 02:57 PM

[quote=geRV]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Mr.Buttocks":967c6
How hefty a PSU are you going to need for that Geraldine?

oOo:
[/quote:967c6]

I'm detecting some hostility here.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 05-15-2007 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
didn't they recommend a 450w for the 1900xt series? i think it's pretty good you got it to run on a 350w.


Yeah the shuittle psu's are very efficient, a 400 watt shuttle psu is more like a 600 watt desktop psu according to some people. Now ive to order up one of those tomorrow and hope it supplies enough power.

1.21 GIGAWATTS!!!!!!!!!!!

geRV 05-15-2007 03:43 PM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":1c8b9][quote=geRV]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Mr.Buttocks":1c8b9
How hefty a PSU are you going to need for that Geraldine?

oOo:
[/quote:1c8b9]

I'm detecting some hostility here.[/quote:1c8b9]

I'll stick ma mcbeef up your arse. rock:

geRV 05-15-2007 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stammer
Is a Radeon X800 still considered 1337-hardware?

Its still ok for some games but pretty old now considering it was introduced in 2005.

jujumantb 05-15-2007 05:34 PM

im still using a radeon 9200SE !!!
it lets me play the shit out of GTA san andreas and fifa 06, the only two games i ever play beer:

Pyro 05-15-2007 05:47 PM

OMFG GERV THAT IS SO COOL I JIZZED

geRV 05-15-2007 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
OMFG GERV THAT IS SO COOL I JIZZED

Just think the card already has flames on it, so its automatically better than christians jetta. oOo:

strvs 05-15-2007 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Quote:

Originally Posted by strvs
I just got my computer built yesterday, i have an 8800GTS superclocked.. haven't had the chance to test it out because my optical drive is fucked, keeps screwing up reading cd's or having errors during installation. annoy:

take a hatchet to the bastard.

What spec did you end up settling on anway?

decided to build it myself.. might as well, i learned alot about how these things work

9980
# MSI P6N-SLI-FI w/ DualDDR2 800, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E x16 SLI Onboard 8-Channel 7.1 Audio x1
# Onboard 100/1000 Gigabit Lan x1
$149.95 1 $149.95
8137
Antec P180B Advanced Super Mid Tower, Black $159.95 1 $159.95
9145
Samsung SH-S182M Lightscribe 18x18 Dual Layer DVD+/-RW, Black (FREE Vista compatible Nero Upgrade!!!) $39.95 1 $39.95
8989
Crucial BallistiX 2GB PC2-6400 Dual Channel DDR2 Kit (2 x 1GB) $154.95 1 $154.95
8111
Seagate 320GB Barracuda 7200.10 SATA II w/ NCQ, 16MB Cache $94.95 1 $94.95
8763
Mushkin HP-550 Enhanced 550W Modular Power Supply $89.95 1 $89.95
9797
eVGA e-GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB SuperClocked PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDTV-Out
$15 Mail-in Rebate! (Download Form) $359.95 1 $359.95
8655
# Intel Core™2 Duo Processor E6600 2.4GHz w/ 4MB Cache Intel Retail Heatsink and Fan x1

1,400$

damn good deal IMO.. i'll take some pics later tonight rock:

oh and i got the Antec True Power Trio 550W PSU because the mushkin didnt fit

ninty 05-15-2007 07:18 PM

where you buy from strv?


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