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Sh3ll_Sh0ck 02-04-2002 05:40 AM

And I often play on the Allied side on Omaha! I am so sick and tired of the sniper fest that is Omaha. I knew wwwaaaayyyyy before the game was released that Omaha was going to turn into a sniper war.

Just look at DoD_Omaha if you want proof. I want MG42s spraying bullets at my feet, not some pussy sniper putting a bullet in my head.
Anyway are there any Omaha servers that run that no-sniper mod besides the sweedish one?

[EC]Mjr. Winters 02-04-2002 06:20 AM

I hear you !
Thats why they took the MG42s out of DoD, Omaha used to have them, but their not in the bunkers anymore since a couple of patches because of gay snipers... i mean wtf, the point of that map is to actually be scared, running for cover and praying not to get mowed down by an MG42...... the snipers simply ruin it, its really gay.
I say FUCK THE SNIPERS, and all you damn admins out there get the no bazooka/sniper mod for Omaha, its adds 1000000000000% fun

Bean 2 02-04-2002 06:28 AM

Its really not that bad. Especially if both sides have pretty good snipers. I thought i was going to be disappointed by what everyone was saying with all the bazookas and snipers but i havent seen one bazooka and snipers hardly ever get me on omaha. I think its one of the better maps actually.

-KLugE- 02-04-2002 07:00 AM

I just peak around the corner of the inside of the pillbox and snipe all the allied snipers. But when servers disable sniping its awesome! it's JUST like in real omaha, or in SPR....its actually hard to get up the beach...its very realistic, the MG-42's are ph33r3d http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Spineharvester[GF] 02-04-2002 07:15 AM

My only complaint is the totally retarded layout and map design inside the complex. I mean on the bridge map you got multiple ways to get to the bridge. In Omaha...you got mulitiple ways to a bottle neck...it is stupid. All the axis really have to do is put their men on both sides of that bottle neck and the allies don't have a prayer. All the allied maps that they have an objective are all bottle neck city....ahh bitching is done I hope the next map makers understand spawn points in relation to strategy and also spread out maps.

I suspect they will...as the clan matches will be stupid. Unless the other clan has no concept of strategy.

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GoombaTommy 02-04-2002 08:27 AM

I don't mind snipers, but as long as they dont position themselves in the same location for the whole game. For instance, I know this sounds corny, but Im playing as an Axis on the Omaha level, and Im up on the pillboxes looking out just to get a good look at the beach layout, and not even 2 seconds later WHAP right in the head. Then I try to take a look out on the beach on the hill, even when im walking, and WHAP. Its so dumb, a lotta axis's seclude themselves within the compound because of these snipers sitting around the stupid boat areas. It kinda ruins it in a way, you wanna be able to spread out amongst the map. Not stay in one particular area because of snipers nabbing you within showing your face for 2 seconds. Its dumb. I know a few of you will be like "well why dont you go down there and kill him" yea, thats a good idea, unless you has you target running down the beach and WHAP. Anyway, a few of you are talking about a lot of Omaha servers running with a no sniper mod, but every single Omaha server i've joined has snipers, a lot of them.

Saintholgi 02-04-2002 11:05 PM

Yea it sux, im the only one who tries to get to the object, but the others just stand on the beach with the snip and trying to get frags.. GRRRRRR

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Sh3ll_Sh0ck 02-05-2002 01:56 AM

And it's not just on Omaha that I have a problem with snipers. Hell, its not even on all the maps that I have a problem with snipers.
I despise (hate) snipers in every team-based online game I play

First, I don't care what half-ass excuse veteran online snipers come up with, they are useless and server no purpose in helping the team.
Snipers are after personal glory, and never help another teamate in need.

They are lone wolfs simply looking to increase their frag count, think snipers really are team-players? Well answer me this, When was the last time you saw a sniper move out of his camping spot to help cover a teamate who has the flag in a game of CTF?

Sure there are the few cases where snipers are usefull, but the majority of the time they just ruin the game.
You know the games with the big outdoor maps? The ones with the stationary guns, mortars, bunkers, and everything needed to creat one of the best firefights ever experienced in an online game, yet for some reason turn into a no-mans-land?

Its because the second a teamate pops his head above the bunker, or mans the machine gun, he gets his head blown off by a sniper's bullet.

Now some online snipers will say that it takes skill to be a true sniper. I disagree.
Sniping involves little more than finding a good camping spot and pressing a button.
Now you will get the morons who will argue that thats how it is in real life.
Then I say "How come 4 out of 5 people who enter the US sniper school drop out withen the first month?".

I am not saying sniping should be taken out of games completely, rather I think game developers should make sniping ALOT HARDER so it becomes a skill only a true online sniper geek could master.
This can be done by implementing these steps.

1.) You can't move while the scope is zoomed, no-one should be able to snipe and move at the same time.

2.) Make the player focus his scope after he zooms in on his target. Also make him adjust for range, wind, and other variables.
Sniping shoulden't be a 2-click proccess.

3.) NEVER, NOT EVER, should a sniper be allowed to use his gun like a rifle. This is a huge problem in MOHAA. Whats the point in useing the non-scoped Kar98 when it only shoots/reloads a tiny bit faster than the scoped version?

4.) Sniper rifles should never be one-shot-one-kill weapons unless the sniper hits the player square in the head or upper chest area.

5.) all I can think of right now.

Ok, I'm done with my rant. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif

bastardized 02-05-2002 02:04 AM

I think that the snipers do server a purpose on most maps but the problem is that there is no limit like there is in other games.

Limiting each team to one sniper may relieve some of the problems and make the game much more enjoyable.

Sh3ll_Sh0ck 02-05-2002 02:48 AM

I didn't write that huge article for nothing.
BUMP http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Sh3ll_Sh0ck (edited February 05, 2002).]

Sgt. Hobo 02-05-2002 03:47 AM

Sh3ll I completely agree with you. Hell, even DoD is changing how sniping works. On Omaha Beach allied snipers not only hurt the gameplay but their own team as well. How many times have you join a game and see some allied soldier yelling "GODDAMMIT STOP SNIPING AND PLANT THE DAMN BOMB!" It gets frustrating playing as the allies and see 1/3 of your team hiding behind the boats sniping.

02-05-2002 03:49 AM

OMG -

Jesus they're double posting now????

WHatever. If you have to make another thread, to bolster a similar thread you JUST started - weak.

Someone flood control this fool.

excelsior

Sh3ll_Sh0ck 02-05-2002 04:38 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin:
OMG -

Jesus they're double posting now????

WHatever. If you have to make another thread, to bolster a similar thread you JUST started - weak.

Someone flood control this fool.

excelsior
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Very well, I will delete my post.
And speaking of Similar threads and Flood control, why do you continue to sit by watching similar threads spam this forum, and when I tried to do something about that you flamed me for the one-time use of a bad an innapropriate word?
And I find it hypercritical that you choose this post to acctually condemn it but not others?

Anyway back to my original topic please...

Johner 02-05-2002 05:18 AM

FOR MY OPINION ON THIS MATTER READ MY POST TITLED:

EASY way to make OMAHA BEACH multiplayer MUCH BETTER (in a simple patch!)

IT IS THE GREATEST POST EVER PLEASE READ IT AND SEND IT TO 2015 and EA! thanks!

02-05-2002 09:35 AM

well I would love to play Omaha without snipers OR shotguns lol.

But I dont think all servers should do it. Some people like snipers. But snipers completely move the actual intent of the designers by making the bunkers worthless.

I only snipe when I get so mad at being sniped so much that I get a scope and kill other snipers for a while - basically saying "look, you are not so hot. ANY idiot can do what you do. Now go get a weapon that does not turn you into Superman and join the rest of us."

But then, it IS fun to feel like the sniper in Saving Private Ryan. I just don't think Omaha Beach is the place to do that.


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