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Machette 08-18-2005 04:22 PM

Russia and China's Peace Mission 2005
 
http://www.mosnews.com/commentary/2005/ ... hina.shtml

Smell's like a military bloc building up not wargames

ninty 08-18-2005 05:02 PM

IMO, Iran is the flashpoint.

Both Russia and China have a lot of monry invested in Iran. I doubt they'll just stand by if the US decides to do something there.

I believe China gets 15 or 17% of its oil imports from Iran. If the US takes that oil away, China isn't going to be happy. Especially since their looking for every drop they can get.

Putin is also looking to change the constitution so he can serve a third term. The end of Democracy in Russia, if there ever was any at all?

Edit:

I suppose Taiwan could be a flashpoint as well, but I really don't see the US sending troops to counter China in that situation.

Stammer 08-18-2005 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
I suppose Taiwan could be a flashpoint as well, but I really don't see the US sending troops to counter China in that situation.

Especially, since one of the highest Chinese generals said they would use nukes if the US ever tried to counter an invasion of Taiwan.

PS: I though Russia was crippled by Post-Soviet poverty? How the hell are they still considerd a military power? Wouldn't war break their countries back?

rdeyes 08-18-2005 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
IMO, Iran is the flashpoint.

Both Russia and China have a lot of monry invested in Iran. I doubt they'll just stand by if the US decides to do something there.

I believe China gets 15 or 17% of its oil imports from Iran. If the US takes that oil away, China isn't going to be happy. Especially since their looking for every drop they can get.

Putin is also looking to change the constitution so he can serve a third term. The end of Democracy in Russia, if there ever was any at all?

Edit:

I suppose Taiwan could be a flashpoint as well, but I really don't see the US sending troops to counter China in that situation.

taiwan gets alot of weapons and weapons systems from the U.S.



The soviets sell military hardware to any country that flashes cash in their face, i believe jordan just signed a contract to buy some attack choppers from russia.

So its ok if china threatens nuclear war ?

Wilko 08-18-2005 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
IMO, Iran is the flashpoint.

Both Russia and China have a lot of monry invested in Iran. I doubt they'll just stand by if the US decides to do something there.

I believe China gets 15 or 17% of its oil imports from Iran. If the US takes that oil away, China isn't going to be happy. Especially since their looking for every drop they can get.

Putin is also looking to change the constitution so he can serve a third term. The end of Democracy in Russia, if there ever was any at all?

Edit:

I suppose Taiwan could be a flashpoint as well, but I really don't see the US sending troops to counter China in that situation.

GET OUT OF THERE, MARTY! ed:

Jimbo@ 08-20-2005 05:41 AM

Paranoia Paranoia Paranoia by America.

rdeyes 08-20-2005 12:22 PM

oOo:

why do you say that ?

Trunks 08-22-2005 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
IMO, Iran is the flashpoint.

Both Russia and China have a lot of monry invested in Iran. I doubt they'll just stand by if the US decides to do something there.

I believe China gets 15 or 17% of its oil imports from Iran. If the US takes that oil away, China isn't going to be happy. Especially since their looking for every drop they can get.

Putin is also looking to change the constitution so he can serve a third term. The end of Democracy in Russia, if there ever was any at all?

Edit:

I suppose Taiwan could be a flashpoint as well, but I really don't see the US sending troops to counter China in that situation.

Russia was on fairly good terms with Iraq as well. However, it did not interfere. Russia would not risk a major war over Iran. And it would not risk a war with America simply because the US does not believe they are democratic enough. I am not sure of this, but wasnt there some sort of pact/treaty that certain countries agreed to help taiwan if such an event did occur? China on the other hand may step in, in Iran's case.

Stammer, Russia is still a military force to be reckoned with. It is not as powerful as the USSR was militarily, however, a state of the art navy, air force, and army, along with the largest tank armada in the world means that a war against Russia, although most likely would be won, could be extremely costly.

EDIT: I was right. A war between China and Taiwan could trigger the Anzus pact.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/co ... 02,00.html


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