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Pfc.Green · 01-26-2003, 09:56 PM

I was not saying we should not worry about civilians, I was using that an example of how the Democrats are often Hypocrites. Clinton had bi-partisen support when he took his limited action (if you could call it that) against Iraq, and now the Democrats (though they voted yes) are not very much behind Bush's actions. Most goverments choose to help those leaders who they believe to be of "benefit" to them at on point or another, this is not new. Now about, say Africa, I dont think we should get involved in much of that, yes we should send food aid and the like, but not much more. Now your probably going to say, well then why should we be involved in anything like Iraq...etc and I can see your point, I feel we have truly good reasons for our actions (or those to come) you probably believe differntly and that I respect. I dont think we should have any trade with China for the express reason of there awful human right desicions and action (i.e. Tibet is the worst of there actions) the trade with China really opened up during the Clinton years, even giving them military secrets, so why dont you ask him.

P.S. I dont take any of this personally and you should'nt either Low (I know you dont), I actually enjoy our debates since your one of few people who can keep their heads during them.

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Pfc.Green is Offline Senior Member Posts: 3,849 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bothell, Washington, U.S.A	01-26-2003, 09:56 PM I was not saying we should not worry about civilians, I was using that an example of how the Democrats are often Hypocrites. Clinton had bi-partisen support when he took his limited action (if you could call it that) against Iraq, and now the Democrats (though they voted yes) are not very much behind Bush's actions. Most goverments choose to help those leaders who they believe to be of "benefit" to them at on point or another, this is not new. Now about, say Africa, I dont think we should get involved in much of that, yes we should send food aid and the like, but not much more. Now your probably going to say, well then why should we be involved in anything like Iraq...etc and I can see your point, I feel we have truly good reasons for our actions (or those to come) you probably believe differntly and that I respect. I dont think we should have any trade with China for the express reason of there awful human right desicions and action (i.e. Tibet is the worst of there actions) the trade with China really opened up during the Clinton years, even giving them military secrets, so why dont you ask him. P.S. I dont take any of this personally and you should'nt either Low (I know you dont), I actually enjoy our debates since your one of few people who can keep their heads during them.