Tippmans suck... I dunno what you are all talking about, but Tippmans are just as much as a starter gun as a Spyder. And that is an electric spyder, they dont suck, people just like to say that so they dont feel stupid for spending so much money on a gun that does the same thing.
If you just got into PB, thats a great gun. Tippmans are good too, but pretty much just for their durability. Spyders have more universal parts/barrels and upgrade easier than most tippmans, although most tipps upgrade well too.