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Originally Posted by Drew
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Originally Posted by Trunks
ha. u make me laugh. I know all about the iran/iraq war, how america gave iraq weapons becuz of their stance, an enemy of our enemy is our friend. Didnt work out for the US tho now did it. And wat makes the US the international police man huh? Seems to me that should be the job for the UN, not a single country. And Iran might not mind America taking out/invading Iraq, but wat they do hate is the attitude of america. That attitude that lead us to defy the UN, to start an unjustified war. The attitude that says, we are big bad america, mess with us, and well, look at Iraq, thatll tell u all u need to know. And for some reason u never responded to wat i said abouyt russia. I wonder y. rolleyes: BtW, let me tell u something. America could care less if 500k people died, as long as it didnt endanger american interests. In ww2, america knew danm well that jews were being killed by the millions, and yet if they could have avoided the war completely the would have. They only joined in the war after japan attacked pearl harbor, and even then they only declrared war on japan. Only after the germans declared war on America, did the US respond witb its own declration of war.
BTW, oh yea, im some 9th grade christian kid.(sarcasm) oOo:
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I hate to keep addressing your arguments, especially since you seem to just keep being proven wrong and then moving on to another subject. I guess maybe your plan of attack is that if you bring up enough topics, I might slip on something.
Also, try breaking your post up to not be one blob of unformatted text on the screen, that way it's a bit easier to read. Though, if I were you, I'd also be trying to hide my ignorance in the center of a nearly unlegible paragraph.
On to the points:
1) I didn't address your point about Russia because you edited your post and added it AFTER I had already replied. Nice try, though.
2) If you knew anything about the Middle East at all, you would have never in 1,000 years said that Iran was sad about Iraq being utterly defeated.
3) What makes the US the world police? Well, that is - of course - a debateable topic. Unfortunately, you once again make an utterly uneducated post and try to pass it off as though it contained some essence of logic. Had you debated the ethical or moral implications involved in the issue, maybe. However, you simply stated that it is the UN's job. This is the same UN that facilitated massive corruption in the Oil for Food program and also failed to enforce its sanctions on Iraq for the better part of a decade. They've failed to do the same in many other places in the world. The UN is outdated and obsolete. The concept of a world forum is sound, however the UN was never properly established for the amount of bureaucracy to which it is now host.
4) Only fight wars we know we can win? Sure, why wouldn't we? What purpose would it serve to enter into a conflict which we know we will lose? That's just stupid and wastes human lives with no end result other than failure. Again, ridiculous logic.
5) American involvement only when it interests our people? Again, yes. I've said this before. Why would we do anything that did not have the interests of our country in mind? Yes, it's great for the world to work as a team, but every country still wants the best for its citizens in the end.
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judging from the tone of ur post, i seem to have offended u... eek: If i didnt, ignore wat i am about to say, but if i did, kindly note it was unintentional.
1) Im sorry bout that, i forgot bout that at the time. However, u still havent adressed wat i said...
2) If i gave u the impression that Iran was upset about us invading iraq then thats not wat i meant, wat i wanted to say was to look at the larger picture, theyre not disappointed at us for invading this particular country, but they are dissapointed in us for having the nerve, to defy the UN, and cause an unjustified war.
3) Whether the UN is not working, obsolete or watever else u may call it is not the point. The point is, that the Un was put in place to prevent wars. However, the only thing I am seeing is America pushing around the UN, as if America were the school bully or something. So in that, i suppose we can agree... However, the mere fact that America has the nerve to defy the entire UN, is what startles me.
4) There is a difference between fighting a just war in which victory is questionable, and invading weaker countries who we know wont stand a chance because of our political interests within them.
5) And actually, its not the peoples interests, it is the governments interests. The average american does not want to be in Iraq. The average american wants the money currently being spent on the Iraq War and opperation enduring freedom to be spent on more productive things, like improving schools, etc. However, the reason we are in iraq is plain and simple. We want them to be in our debt for "liberating" them so that when the time comes and we need another ally in the Middle East besides Israel, we will have Iraq to fall back on.