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Drew · 03-24-2005, 05:16 PM

[quote="Short Hand":8cf0e][quote=Drew]Without getting into a huge philosophical debate, I suggest you all go read the Qu'ran. It's very interesting and there is a lot of stuff in it that isn't really brought out in the mainstream. Reason being that if we all knew that Mohammed specifically instructs his followers to "rise up and slay the infidels," there would probably be a mass lynching of Muslims.

Also, please keep in mind that about half the modern sects of Islam do not practice jihad. It is also important to remember that the number of sects which actually denounce jihad are far, far fewer.[/quote]

Read This

[url="http://www.ispi-usa.org/currentarticles/violence.html"]http://www.ispi-usa.org/currentarticles/violence.html[/url]

then

http://al-islam.org/inquiries/2.html

Read this.

YES people misunderstand, yes, people exploit the faith. But This is done in every faith. It is just being done in Islam so much more in todays worlds as a means for struggling people to be motivated to rise up and take control, for otherwise corrupt mullahs and religous figures. Islam itself is very noble. More so then Christiianity and Judaism. But in such times, humans themselves take advantage. I would hope you could also redirect your "hate" for this faith towards the people exploiting it.

[quote:8cf0e] God revealed His will to the angels, saying: "I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers." (Sura 8, Verse 12)

"When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads." (Sura 47, Verse 4)

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For anyone, Muslim or non-Muslim, who wants to put some distance between contemporary jihadist practice and the beliefs of ordinary Muslims, there are a range of arguments that might attenuate the force of these passages. For instance, it could be argued that these excerpts need to be put into context; they don't literally mean what they seem to say; or that they're the product of a particular historical moment, now passed. What's more, some might say that beheading is not Islamic at all but is in fact an unfortunate holdover from pre-Islamic times, when the warring tribes on the Arabian peninsula decapitated their rivals and left them unburied in the field for predators to devour.[/quote:8cf0e]

This is also a way in which to explain the violent passages you hear about. Then again, in comparision to the old testaments... This is lightcore shit.[/quote:8cf0e]
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Drew is Offline 2nd Lieutenant Posts: 3,292 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC	03-24-2005, 05:16 PM [quote="Short Hand":8cf0e][quote=Drew]Without getting into a huge philosophical debate, I suggest you all go read the Qu'ran. It's very interesting and there is a lot of stuff in it that isn't really brought out in the mainstream. Reason being that if we all knew that Mohammed specifically instructs his followers to "rise up and slay the infidels," there would probably be a mass lynching of Muslims. Also, please keep in mind that about half the modern sects of Islam do not practice jihad. It is also important to remember that the number of sects which actually denounce jihad are far, far fewer.[/quote] Read This [url="http://www.ispi-usa.org/currentarticles/violence.html"]http://www.ispi-usa.org/currentarticles/violence.html[/url] then http://al-islam.org/inquiries/2.html Read this. YES people misunderstand, yes, people exploit the faith. But This is done in every faith. It is just being done in Islam so much more in todays worlds as a means for struggling people to be motivated to rise up and take control, for otherwise corrupt mullahs and religous figures. Islam itself is very noble. More so then Christiianity and Judaism. But in such times, humans themselves take advantage. I would hope you could also redirect your "hate" for this faith towards the people exploiting it. [quote:8cf0e] God revealed His will to the angels, saying: "I shall be with you. Give courage to the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers." (Sura 8, Verse 12) "When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads." (Sura 47, Verse 4) A For anyone, Muslim or non-Muslim, who wants to put some distance between contemporary jihadist practice and the beliefs of ordinary Muslims, there are a range of arguments that might attenuate the force of these passages. For instance, it could be argued that these excerpts need to be put into context; they don't literally mean what they seem to say; or that they're the product of a particular historical moment, now passed. What's more, some might say that beheading is not Islamic at all but is in fact an unfortunate holdover from pre-Islamic times, when the warring tribes on the Arabian peninsula decapitated their rivals and left them unburied in the field for predators to devour.[/quote:8cf0e] This is also a way in which to explain the violent passages you hear about. Then again, in comparision to the old testaments... This is lightcore shit.[/quote:8cf0e] http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/view ... p?t=168674 http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/view ... p?t=177785 Chairperson, Coastal Carolina Students for Ron Paul 2008