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Colonel · 04-04-2005, 08:55 AM

Sorry - this one is old (1998), but relates to stats taken from The Third International Crime Victimization Survey (ICVS)....Pertinent points to note:
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* The highest incidence of violent crime in the industrialized world was in England and Wales.
* Canadians suffer as much violent crime as Americans, and more non-violent crime.
* Crimes of all sorts, including murder, are lowest in those states with the highest rates of gun ownership.
* The murder rates in other industrialized nations have inched closer to those in the U.S. despite various attempts to register all guns or license all gun owners, or even ban guns altogether.
* Burglaries in Canada are more than four times as likely to occur when the residents are home as they are in the U.S.
* States such as Vermont, New Hampshire, North Dakota and Montana, where gun ownership is at least twice what it is in Canada, have murder rates as low as one-half that in the Canadian provinces which are their immediate neighbours.
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I think you can make stats say about anything you want but to me it is interesting that when you compare areas of these USA that have similar population densities to Canada, we have much lower crime stats. I also found one article that said that Canada and the UK report their murder rates differently than the US. In those countries it is reported only after a conviction. For some reason in the US it is reported as a murder - even if during the trial it is found to be an accidental shooting or manslaughter.

I also found the following, which leads me to think that there are scores of Canadians who do believe the current registration law is oppressive...

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It has been estimated that as many as 900,000 gun-owning Canadians have not registered their firearms. As of June 2003, 6.4 million firearms had been registered which is far short of the government's 1974 estimate of 10 million guns in Canada. Currently, all provinces and territories save Quebec (which has the lowest gun ownership rate) oppose the registry and refuse to prosecute violators.

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gotta go more later. .... Dang I didn't mean to get roped into another long running debate! LOL

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Colonel is Offline Master Sergeant Posts: 1,789 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Marietta, GA	04-04-2005, 08:55 AM Sorry - this one is old (1998), but relates to stats taken from The Third International Crime Victimization Survey (ICVS)....Pertinent points to note: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * The highest incidence of violent crime in the industrialized world was in England and Wales. * Canadians suffer as much violent crime as Americans, and more non-violent crime. * Crimes of all sorts, including murder, are lowest in those states with the highest rates of gun ownership. * The murder rates in other industrialized nations have inched closer to those in the U.S. despite various attempts to register all guns or license all gun owners, or even ban guns altogether. * Burglaries in Canada are more than four times as likely to occur when the residents are home as they are in the U.S. * States such as Vermont, New Hampshire, North Dakota and Montana, where gun ownership is at least twice what it is in Canada, have murder rates as low as one-half that in the Canadian provinces which are their immediate neighbours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think you can make stats say about anything you want but to me it is interesting that when you compare areas of these USA that have similar population densities to Canada, we have much lower crime stats. I also found one article that said that Canada and the UK report their murder rates differently than the US. In those countries it is reported only after a conviction. For some reason in the US it is reported as a murder - even if during the trial it is found to be an accidental shooting or manslaughter. I also found the following, which leads me to think that there are scores of Canadians who do believe the current registration law is oppressive... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It has been estimated that as many as 900,000 gun-owning Canadians have not registered their firearms. As of June 2003, 6.4 million firearms had been registered which is far short of the government's 1974 estimate of 10 million guns in Canada. Currently, all provinces and territories save Quebec (which has the lowest gun ownership rate) oppose the registry and refuse to prosecute violators. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gotta go more later. .... Dang I didn't mean to get roped into another long running debate! LOL