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Tripper · 04-22-2005, 03:19 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":61b58]I never said all bands I said most bands. I think your statement

"Digging for samples off of old 78s is a a pretty gruelling task compared to putting together a few riffs on a guitar anyways. "

is an absolute joke, your saying picking and chosing other peoples riffs and bits of songs is harder than creating them in the frist place. That is just a joke. to create music (no matter what genre) is a tough thing to do. Stealing samples is easy. Yes I said stealing samples. Thats what they do because they dont have the talent to create things themselves[/quote:61b58]

How many people do you know that can play pretty much every instrument on the planet?
Because that's what would be required if these guys had to play every instrument to make their beats. That's what hiphop is, making music without being taught. That's how it started in the ghetto first - Kids that couldn't make music by any other means found a way to put songs together without the use of instruments they had no access to, they created a whole new sound.

You've obviously never tried cutting and looping small pieces of audio out of vinyl and making it flow flawlessley. It's damn near impossible to do, and takes ALOT of fine tuning and practise.....and what I meant was that it's a long and hard task and requires different abilities than learning an instrument, it's a different ball game - But that doesn't mean it's not fucking hard and strenuous - That was the point I was trying to make, I didn't intend for it to come out like it was a direct comparison, because obviously it is fucking hard learning a guitar, it's just a different type of hard.

You could call using samples of other peoples instruments stealing, but I could just as easily call the same for someone using guitar coords. They've stood on the shoulders of giants the same way, everything has been played on the giutar so no single coord is original. It's all about the arrangement of them to get originality. Same thing when you're digging for samples. It's just a different way of doing things.

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Tripper is Offline General of the Army Posts: 18,895 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand	04-22-2005, 03:19 PM [quote="Sgt>Stackem":61b58]I never said all bands I said most bands. I think your statement "Digging for samples off of old 78s is a a pretty gruelling task compared to putting together a few riffs on a guitar anyways. " is an absolute joke, your saying picking and chosing other peoples riffs and bits of songs is harder than creating them in the frist place. That is just a joke. to create music (no matter what genre) is a tough thing to do. Stealing samples is easy. Yes I said stealing samples. Thats what they do because they dont have the talent to create things themselves[/quote:61b58] How many people do you know that can play pretty much every instrument on the planet? Because that's what would be required if these guys had to play every instrument to make their beats. That's what hiphop is, making music without being taught. That's how it started in the ghetto first - Kids that couldn't make music by any other means found a way to put songs together without the use of instruments they had no access to, they created a whole new sound. You've obviously never tried cutting and looping small pieces of audio out of vinyl and making it flow flawlessley. It's damn near impossible to do, and takes ALOT of fine tuning and practise.....and what I meant was that it's a long and hard task and requires different abilities than learning an instrument, it's a different ball game - But that doesn't mean it's not fucking hard and strenuous - That was the point I was trying to make, I didn't intend for it to come out like it was a direct comparison, because obviously it is fucking hard learning a guitar, it's just a different type of hard. You could call using samples of other peoples instruments stealing, but I could just as easily call the same for someone using guitar coords. They've stood on the shoulders of giants the same way, everything has been played on the giutar so no single coord is original. It's all about the arrangement of them to get originality. Same thing when you're digging for samples. It's just a different way of doing things.