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Default 08-08-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KTOG
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Originally Posted by Johnj
So what you guys are saying is it would have been better to invade the Japanese home islands, resulting in 1 to 2 million casualties for the Allies, and genocide for the Japanese. How compassionate.
You can't make that assumption because it never happend. If we made land fall it could have been another vietnam or a quick victory, you never know.
It's a totally different issue in Hindsight. Look at it from the point of view of someone before the bombs hit.

Just like we make assumptions about an Invasion, had we made the invasion with horrifying casualties, we would make assumptions about dropping the bomb.

I'm sort of confused about what part of this issue we are disputing, I mean, I don't see a possible invasion as a better option, if I was in the shoes of those that made the decision.

[quote="Scorched Earth":261a5]
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Originally Posted by rdeyes

took them long enough to decide to surrender oOo:
Uh...well when whole towns are obliterated to dust and whole populations are vaporized, you might be a bit less organized after. Ya need recoup and then make the decision. Im sure they were jus thinking survival of their own people before signing because we obviously made our point and did our damage.[/quote:261a5]

The military officials and the Emperor weren't in either Nagasaki, or Hiroshima. They had 3 days between the bombings. It shouldn't take that long to decide, "We're fucked. Lets give up."

If they actually cared about their citizens they would have made the smart decision after the first bomb. But politicians rarely ever actually care about their own people, I guess.


[quote="Short Hand":261a5]
You have to be the largest child on this site, 80 % of your posts involve childish insults or talking about a cock you had a few nights back....[/quote:261a5]

If you want to flame me about the way I act in offtopic, bring it up there. Otherwise, stfu and stop ruining the thread.

[quote="Short Hand":261a5]Your sole purpose in the political forum seems to be finding my posts and insulting a word I forgot to capitilize...[/quote:261a5]

Please quote ONCE where I have done anything like this on the Political forum, before you go shooting your mouth off. Otherwise you are just making pointless flames - Something we don't want in this forum. At least with my critical judgements of your arguing, I had clear and obvious evidence.

[quote="Short Hand":261a5]
rolleyes: You could just fuck off and act a little older.. but that will never happen. Continue on chav. eek: [/quote:261a5]

LOL - Look at this post you made, buddy. Telling me to act a little older? Get a fucking grip. You're the guy who went nuts simply because I proved him wrong. If someone ever proves me wrong, at least I accept the fact and move on - You just throw a hissy fit, just like you've demonstrated now.

I don't think you're ready for this forum, yet. You need to stop being so pathetic and move on.
  
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