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Originally Posted by Judas
i dunno what its given you, apparently nothing, and honestly i dont think it is suppose to give you anything. by definition alone its given me : A set of principles or beliefs. Which, btw, sounds alot like what science gives you ?
science tries to give us facts and answers to any and all questions humans would like answered. it has nothing to do with beliefs or morality. my opinion on religion is irrelevant.
science has given us food ? if anything science is making our food more and more dangerous to consume. science pollutes our water, and soil, and in turn pollutes the animals that live around that water and soil, and resulting vegetation.
those are the negative effects science has on food, but if it werent for science, there wouldnt have been pasteurization, refrigerators, freezers, powdered foods, microwaveable dinners, advanced farming - we wouldnt have the capacity to feed the amount of people alive today. millions would starve if they waited for jesus or muhammad or whatever to come down on his golden chariot to turn water into wine and feed everyone with a loaf of bread. no, science taught us how to provide sustanance for ourselves.
food,medicine,housing, and education ( how the fuk did science give us education btw) gives us the moral character to enteract with other human beings in a civil fashion? I dont think so.
Science is by definition the process of learning. You wouldnt have colleges, universities and education w/o learning. history proves that religions obstruct knowledge by only teaching approved lessons and resisting any learning that contradicts what is fundamentaly accepted. You cant have medicine and medical science w/o science, what are you, kidding me? i didnt say that science teaches you morals, i think you are supposed to learn those from your parents and peers. You get your social behavior in school and interracting with others. I didnt learn my morality or conciousness from church.
if anything science only gives us the means to destroy one another, at best. it teaches us nothing of kindness, and responsibility to our fellow man.
Religion is equally destructive as science has been in the past. Again, my concious tells me to be kind and responsible.
religion has its place for those who wish to believe in it, as does science, but they both offer us different things. if you want to believe in science, more power to you, if you want to believe in some david koresh type, more power. i think thats the wonderful thing about these "fairy tails", is that they are there for us to find something in ( including sciece ), whatever that something may be. does it hold us back as a race, i dunno, but i like to think that it does help those who find something in it feel better about the world, and help them to treat their fellow man better. not everything in science is proven, and not everything in religion is proven, some in both is "assumed", right ?
Right, im not saying we should abolish religion. You are free to believe in your superstitions if you want to. I just think that Science does have an edge over Religion because it is the search for knowledge, indesputeable knowledge that can be proven. I dont see how after everything we have learned through science people can still say that its just as equal to religion and should be shared in schools. Schools are for learning. Think of everything that you were taught as a child and what you now know to be false. There is no Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth fairy, boogie man, god or jesus. Its just the same thing brought down from generation to generation. Fine, keep telling the stories at campfires and to keep your kids from breaking curfew.
i seriously dont give a shit what any of you believe, dont believe, or what have you. believe what you want, im not here to condem you where ever or whatever. i just dont see how religion is doing anything to "hold us back", and none of you have, succinctly, or loquaciously, explained to me how it does.
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