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Originally Posted by c312
Trip, you don't have to think a fetus is a person, but that doesn't mean it isn't because you say it isn't. There are loads of people who think they are, your opinion on the issue is not an end all solution. And if you want to provide an example like the "30,000 civilian deaths that their support of their government's foreign policy caused, in a war based on false pretenses." I would pick one that isn't arguable.
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I never said I didn't think fetus' were ALIVE - I said they weren't
conscious. That's not a 'belief' that's a FACT. A plant is alive....and yet you don't hesitate to rip those out if they look ugly. A cow is alive....and yet you don't hesitate to tear your teeth into a big piece of beef steak.
The 30,000 casualty statement was a reference to Stammer's post:
I was making a generalised comparison based on his post about "typical" right wingers (Mainly the ones I've encountered on this forum) who seem to all express themselves on moral homeland issues against such things as abortion, euthenasia, etc and then not even seem to give two shits about the incredible statistic of civilian casualties in the Iraq war which they strongly support. I may not be talking about all right wing conservatives here, but the vast majority of the ones who post on this forum certainly present themselves this way....
Don't you feel like you're contradicting yourself when you sit so strongly for life when it comes to domestic issues, but when it's foreign policy it's "who gives a shit, we're doing what's best for them." ??