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BallisticWookie · 10-10-2002, 07:31 PM

Airborne are not elite. They are Paratroopers...nothing more. They have a jump badge and exit a plane using static line parachutes....all Infantry in Advanced Infantry Training do a few static line jumps as far as I know.

When they start training using steerable parachutes, train in counter insurgency/guerilla warfare techniques, advanced weapons and explosives, then they can be called "elite".

There are "elite" branches WITHIN Airborne and Infantry... Recon Platoons, Sniper Teams so on, but just because they know how to jump out of a Hercules doesnt make them Spec Ops.

Solidus....there is nothing easy about Basic Training. The word easy and Military training dont mix.

[quote:0f842]Miscguy: You do NOT need to be airborne qualified to be special forces.[/quote:0f842]

No, you dont, they will make you Airborne qualified. I know in Australia, especially if your going for Special Air Service selection, you need to atleast have 2 years prior infantry service, or 2 years within your field, and if your going for SAS Officer selection, you need to be of the rank Corporal or above.

Our Special Forces Group (comprised of SASR and 4RAR Commando) take selections twice a year with a dropout rate of 70% to 75%. The selection for both units is held together for 3 days, prospective SASR and 4RAR Commando's train together, then when they have passed go their seperate ways. They then undertake a 20 day course which is even more intense then those 3 days, (during those 3 days you only get to sleep for about 3 hours). Our Special Forces Training program is so good even the US Military has adopted it, and no...thats not a load of shit, thats fact.

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BallisticWookie is Offline Senior Member Posts: 4,202 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queensland, Australia	10-10-2002, 07:31 PM Airborne are not elite. They are Paratroopers...nothing more. They have a jump badge and exit a plane using static line parachutes....all Infantry in Advanced Infantry Training do a few static line jumps as far as I know. When they start training using steerable parachutes, train in counter insurgency/guerilla warfare techniques, advanced weapons and explosives, then they can be called "elite". There are "elite" branches WITHIN Airborne and Infantry... Recon Platoons, Sniper Teams so on, but just because they know how to jump out of a Hercules doesnt make them Spec Ops. Solidus....there is nothing easy about Basic Training. The word easy and Military training dont mix. [quote:0f842]Miscguy: You do NOT need to be airborne qualified to be special forces.[/quote:0f842] No, you dont, they will make you Airborne qualified. I know in Australia, especially if your going for Special Air Service selection, you need to atleast have 2 years prior infantry service, or 2 years within your field, and if your going for SAS Officer selection, you need to be of the rank Corporal or above. Our Special Forces Group (comprised of SASR and 4RAR Commando) take selections twice a year with a dropout rate of 70% to 75%. The selection for both units is held together for 3 days, prospective SASR and 4RAR Commando's train together, then when they have passed go their seperate ways. They then undertake a 20 day course which is even more intense then those 3 days, (during those 3 days you only get to sleep for about 3 hours). Our Special Forces Training program is so good even the US Military has adopted it, and no...thats not a load of shit, thats fact.