[Star85]

Some people just dont have anyone to turn to. Its kinda of sad. For all we know her parents died and since she's over 18 shes old enough to care for herself, or so says the government. But anyway I dont know what I would do.

Ahem.

I completely believe in the process we have instituted here in the United States of America. I believe the "red tape" as it were, keeps the system from getting clogged with crap. I can only imagine how many cranks we would get if the checks, balances, and rechecks we have in place at our office werent there.

This girls case is tragic. I was gonna slip her a 50, but if it came back in anyway I'd lose my job. People who are trying to work the system do not sit in cars for 45 minutes after being told they have no option left. However, people who have nowhere to go and no options do. I know exactly what kind of mindset she is in, and her mind is rightfully telling itself shes better off dead.

There wasn't one person in that office who felt this was someone pulling a fast one, since if you HAVE filed for California Unemployment then you already know from the get go that pulling a fast one is nearly impossible. If you EVER get called into our office, you know you have had to fuck up bad and chances are you arent getting anymore checks.

Sucks because my brother has been collecting for about 4 months now, not looking for work, etc. etc. And this girl was at the end of her rope. There is no two ways about it. It sucked cause her "companion" I know couldn't care less. This chick was desperate. I apologize for the drug comment - although I'm sure she wasnt drug free I wont say she was a junkie - and thinking back she was pale. But these are the casualties of a system that refuses to be abused more than it is. It's willing to piss on the needy if it ensures the abusers are kept at a minimum.

Originally Posted by Arkan

Tell her to spend her drug money on food instead!! I have no sympathy for people like that. She should rob a bank, that way, if she gets away with it, she can eat.....and if she gets caught, she'll have a roof over her head with 3 meals a day!! Fucking losers!!

exactley how i feel

[Innoxx]

Believe me easier said than done, when one is addicted to a drug they will do ANYTHING for their next hit, i just hope she can get the treatment she needs and live a normal life after or else she will end up as another jane doe in the coroner's office. Up here i see this shit all the time, i volunteer at a community outreach program, and sometimes all these people need is somewhere they can call home. Here in my town the group homes, woman shelters, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, rehab programs, adult education programs, and the income assistance programs are all chalk full, it's a shame when the government would rather waste billions of dollars to go to war rather than improve the things that really matter.

[pest]

Most red tape is there because it was needed to fix loop holes that were abused in the past.

The drug thing is tough. On one hand I have no sympathy for someone that wont help themselves, but on the other hand, they have a chemical dependency that controls their thinking and impulses that many times cant be corrected without help. The real question is, who should be the one to help?

[Innoxx]

Jesus. lol!

[SoLiDUS]

I don't like being an ass but this is all I can think of when reading that "remember my face" line:

"I'm a goddamn fuck-up for many reasons; many of which I am responsible
for personally, meaning *I* got myself in this shit. I am in trouble partly or
mainly because of the stupid choices I've taken in my life but I am going to
make you feel like shit anyway, being conscious that you cannot help..."

Sorry. My friend had it fucking rough too; still has A SHITLOAD of problems
but he knows he got himself in trouble by not staying home or getting a job
even though he's got more qualifications than most people in this forum...
so I don't want to hear about *her* issues. I know the exceptions exists but
most of the time these people get themselves in trouble so I won't be teary
tonight.

[BallisticWookie]

[quote="MR. SPECIAL ED":aa33f]Ahem.

I completely believe in the process we have instituted here in the United States of America. I believe the "red tape" as it were, keeps the system from getting clogged with crap. I can only imagine how many cranks we would get if the checks, balances, and rechecks we have in place at our office werent there.

This girls case is tragic. I was gonna slip her a 50, but if it came back in anyway I'd lose my job. People who are trying to work the system do not sit in cars for 45 minutes after being told they have no option left. However, people who have nowhere to go and no options do. I know exactly what kind of mindset she is in, and her mind is rightfully telling itself shes better off dead.

There wasn't one person in that office who felt this was someone pulling a fast one, since if you HAVE filed for California Unemployment then you already know from the get go that pulling a fast one is nearly impossible. If you EVER get called into our office, you know you have had to fuck up bad and chances are you arent getting anymore checks.

Sucks because my brother has been collecting for about 4 months now, not looking for work, etc. etc. And this girl was at the end of her rope. There is no two ways about it. It sucked cause her "companion" I know couldn't care less. This chick was desperate. I apologize for the drug comment - although I'm sure she wasnt drug free I wont say she was a junkie - and thinking back she was pale. But these are the casualties of a system that refuses to be abused more than it is. It's willing to piss on the needy if it ensures the abusers are kept at a minimum.[/quote:aa33f]

To tell you the truth Ed, I dont think many of the people here really have a clue what it can be like out there, they are just too young to understand. As none of us, except you, were there, all we can do is speculate on what is happening with this girls life. Her misfortunes could have been self inflicted, or could be a long line of bad luck which has unfortunately befallen her. Either way, to be 19 and in such dire circumstances...something terribly aweful must have happened to her, and she underestimated to difficulty that life can always be.

[Tripper]

Its like, for 1 in 3 people, life is great...for the other 2, life is shit.

I hate what's out there. It's frightening. I'm glad I have a Shitload of mates, and family that'd always be there for me if I tripped up. I have a great relationship with my parents too, I'd never do anyuthing to screw that up....Yet I'm not really takinmg advantage of the great position I'm in...i.e, not being as good to my parents as I possibly could be....Hearing stories like Eds, is like a cold slap in the face, I am taking advantage of life, and taking for granted the great situation I'm in, while people are shat on through, sometimes, pure bad luck. Fuck this world. hake:

Originally Posted by Tripper

Fuck this world. hake:

Fuck this world? Were else would you go? The moon! Shut the fuck up, this world has given you so much. And yes, it has its problems, but when you bitch with that attitude and your not doing shit to improve it, stfu.

So when you going to grow up and realize, mommy and daddy arnt gona be there in this real "fucked" world???

remind me not to let flipside on my moon base oOo: quite a view tho you can throw rocks at the space station

lol, for the first time ever, I laughed at Strik0r.

[Innoxx]

Flip, go suck a lemon. ontario sucks

[r3mix]

you gotta understand drugs are escapism.

i knew a kid a long time ago. got the shit belted out of him for about a decade. bad and regular. grew up under a parent thought it was normal to drag a scrawny little epileptic boy outta his bed half asleep and beat him unconscious a few times a week for something he has said or done weeks earlier.

he was scared so shitless he wouldnt talk to anyone about it... told everyone from counsellors to cops lies or just to fuck off. so it just went on until he copped a beating with an axe handle. left half dead on the floor of his garage at 16.... rib through his lung and blood wall to wall. apparently his unlicenced brother found him and he ended up driving him to hospital.

friend of his copping pretty much the same ended up putting a .22 in his mouth a few months later. not a very powerful gun the .22 and took him all night to die. i knew this kid and it was a lot less painfull than hanging about i can assure you.

so yeah theres kids who just use drugs for fun and recreation and take it too far and probably do bring it on themselves.

theres others that get taught real early how little value their life has. whatever scale thats on... from experiencing real hate to people not caring if you are without clothes or shelter. you spend an entire winter sleeping on concrete you might understand actually where that rates. if that gets put in ya head for too long theres not much concern for anything more than removing as much pain as you can or putting something in your head other than nightmares.

and we are the only species that displays this evil. remember that.
and sleep tight.

[SoLiDUS]

[quote:fc1a8]and sleep tight.[/quote:fc1a8]

I will. oOo: [/quote]