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Originally Posted by FWB

Ok... and what are you trying to prove. They support the stats I gave. No one here has claimed that more people die from firearms than vehicles... so what's your point? We're discussing guns here, not cars.

Can you find cause of vehicle incidents, i.e. drunk driving, falling asleep, brake failure etc?

Yes, the person responsible for the vehicle is the cause in every incident you stated. just like guns.

We need to hold the individual responsible not the means. Everyone is so caught up in banning firearms because they are so bad and are meant to kill. When the statistics show vehicles ( not meant to kill ) are more likely to kill someone. We should ban all vehicles!

Sounds kind of stupid doesn't it?

On a side note. This thread started out. Who takes their kids to the range? Not the right to bear arms or gun control.