[TGB!]

"More or less right" - he is right. This is about more than how many people Saddam killed, or how many American's have died. Opponents of the war desperately wish to reframe the argument around numbers because numbers can be "proved" and "disputed" - the wont discuss the long-term ramifications of our efforts in the Middle East because to do so would force them to critically look at the positives of removing Saddam/Taliban from power.

No - all they can do is parrot at the top of their lungs "2000 dead - 200 dead" as if the number of dead invalidates a movement.

How many slaves died? How many American's died in the revolutionary war (a war - by the anti-war crowds standards should NEVER have happened and that France should never have been involved in)? How many blacks died in South Africa? By this spurious stupid logic - none of those struggles was "worth it".

For a group that prides itself on "progressive thinking" and looking outside the box to find solutions to the problems of the world - they seem incredibly narrow-minded and limited in their analysis of this conflict.