[BallisticWookie]

Real Emo is not that "sooky, sweater wearing, nerd looking, love story" base that has been labelled as being "Emo". Real Emo is derived from the early 80's style of Hardcore Punk. Emo is a "post version" of Hardcore (but slower) and was started by bands like Embrace, Rites of Spring, Fugazi, 7 Seconds, so on so on. If you know who Ian Mackaye is, then you know what I'm talking about.

The Emo you are talking about with its constant love lyrics and nerdy stereotype is just the more widely used term of "Emo". Emo is emotional, and any Hardcore band that sings from their heart with true and meaningful lyrics is in one way or another, emotional.

I like "Emo". Texas is the Reason are one of my favourite bands, they were a group of guys from the Hardcore scene who used many forms of music to inspire them. They created an emotional sound with terrific lyrics combined with the more mainstream pop sound, but were, when it's all said and done, still very "underground".

Dont get me wrong, I love Grindcore and Powerviolence, 80's Hardcore, Straight Edge Hardcore (I used to be Straight Edge), Thrash, Metalcore, but I'm not going to look down on someone because of the music they listen too. I'm not a "scenster" anymore. I dont go to shows, I rarely buy cd's or records anymore, but I still love the music that changed my life (Hardcore).
Wintersforge, who are you to call the shots on what "real men" should listen too ?? Thats another weakness of the "scene" and another reason I decided to take me leave. The arrogance and foul attitude is quite amazing.