[Stammer]

[quote="TGB!":1aad7]Your childish assertion is that the personal lives of American citizens is none of the laws business so long as "the law" is being adhered to, and that we shouldnt legislate morality - two opinions which go contrary to what we do EVERYDAY.[/quote:1aad7]

And your pompous assertion that the Government has every right to regulate the personal lives and reproductive lives of it's citizens is a mockery of what it means to have your own say in your own business. Ever heard of something called "personal responsibility"? I don't need you or some evangelical telling my wife/girlfriend whomever that she can't have an abortion because it's not kosher in someone else's view, or that two gays can't get married because it disrupts your Religious beliefs or that assisted suicide is wrong because people shouldn't have a say in their own death but you have every right to decide the fate of an individual because you hold the illusion of moral superiority.

[quote="TGB!":1aad7]The law butts it "nose" into the lives of American citizens everyday and some would say we are the better for it. Everything from how you treat your kids, to how many people you can marry - its ALL personal lives regulated and metered.[/quote:1aad7]

And...? Some laws cross the line with an individuals right to dictate their own life, when it comes to theft and murder you need more then one person to do that and I'm going out on a limb here and assuming that most people aren't going to consent to being murdered and stolen from.

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[quote="TGB!":1aad7]YOU may have no problem with a 13 yr old fucking an adult - but many people legitimately would (the parents for instance). It is RIDICULOUS to assume that you're an island unto yourself, and that your actions and their consequences are limited to yourself.[/quote:1aad7]

HA HA HA! Who's to say what legitimate marriage is? What if the parents said it was alright for their son/daughter to marry? You assume to much about people based on your own taboos.

[quote="TGB!":1aad7]As for legislating morality - be glad people think that its a WRONG to rob, steal, and commit other acts, especially for someone living in NJ.[/quote:1aad7]

Umm? Last time I checked those all involve another person my argument is based around an individuals right to decide what to do on their "own little island". Last time I check to steal or murder you needed another person to murder or steal from. Assisted suicide, or abortion is a personal choice not something to be regulated because some one feels it's wrong.

Originally Posted by C132

Stammer, I have no clue what you are talking about in the assisted suicide part of your post with the "turn the other cheek" reference, do you even know what that quote means? Please elaborate if you do, because it makes no sense as it is. And Stammer, you are being too general in the classification of what the right wing is "telling" people to do. All those issues are much more complex than you made them, and by no means do right wingers have a consensus on all of them.

The "turn the other cheek" portion of my post had nothing to do with suicide it had to do with the execution of a prisoner, if the Religious right is so big on the bible and life why not "turn the other cheek" and forgive people for their past sins? Isn't that the point of forgiveness or repentance?

How are they more complex, because they don't appear complex to me. You make them complex.

Abortion - Woman wants to abort a fetus.

Assisted Suicide - Someone wants to kill themselves due to a severe medical condition which will eventually kill them in a short period of time.

Gay Marriage - A same sex couple wishes to marry.

Sorry I don't see the complexity.