[Tripper]

Originally Posted by c312

As for rape. I'm not as sure as the rape situation. Rape abortions are undoubtedly much more rare than non rape abortions. I can't say that I agree with aborting a fetus in that case because it's clearly still a life (to me) so that would be wrong. However, I don't think I have anything against the morning after pill for rape victims. As for the case where mothers are in danger, that's a doozy. I guess it would depend on the specific case, but I think I would generally side with the mother's health.

I'd like to know what you'd do if your wife was raped and you attempted to get her to refuse an abortion. If you honestly believe she would want to have the baby you either know some fucked up women or you just plain have NO idea.

...and it's not all that rare is you probably think it is - Rapists don't use condoms. It's also pretty hard for a woman to work up the nerve to see a pharmacist/doctor and go through the questionaire involved with getting the morning after pill after being raped....

I can't even believe you have think it's a "doozy" when the mother's health is in danger...To me, that is insane. If it were my wife, I'd have no trouble in deciding. The baby has no idea it's dieing. The baby has no idea it's even lived. While obviously I would feel a great loss, and I would be emotionally wrecked, I would be able to move on alot more easily than losing someone I've actually known and loved.

I think outlawing abortion in total is just fucking stupid no matter what side of the fence you sit. I'm for more sternly regulating abortions...But I think just as it is necessary to kill 30,000 civilians in order to save them ( oOo: ), I think it is VERY likely that there would be a chance in which aborting the fetus would be necessary - If you're gonna outlaw abortion under any and all circumstances (which you have made yourself clearly supportive of), you should do the same with your war machine.

That's, for me, where the contradiction lies in the hard-line conservative mindstate....