[Akuma]

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":d47c5]stupid:[/quote:d47c5]

oOo:

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

Soz, just thought it was a bit wierd worshipping Greek Gods...

So what's the attraction with, paganism I take it? I'm the narrow minded type that would think that people who worshipped the undead etc were Goths or something & would only do it because it's "cool" or because all their friends do it &tc. By all means prove me wrong, but I find this so bizarre I just don't understand & can't think of any other reason why. Is it because it's trendy & different? It's in fashion? Peer pressure? Or do you generally worship & believe in Pagan/Greek Gods? Pagan woship is the Devil ya?

[Akuma]

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":202e5]Soz, just thought it was a bit wierd worshipping Greek Gods...

So what's the attraction with, paganism I take it? I'm the narrow minded type that would think that people who worshipped the undead etc were Goths or something & would only do it because it's "cool" or because all their friends do it &tc. By all means prove me wrong, but I find this so bizarre I just don't understand & can't think of any other reason why. Is it because it's trendy & different? It's in fashion? Peer pressure? Or do you generally worship & believe in Pagan/Greek Gods? Pagan woship is the Devil ya?[/quote:202e5]

Those are all common misconseptions. Most Pagans are not goths. And if a they were goth, usually give up the look or give up the religion. Paganism has nothing to do with the undead or Satan. Paganism is symply any polythesistic religion(including Hinduism and Buddhism). Almost all Pagan religions are heavily Earth based, meaning all parts of the universe are equal parts of nature and should be treated accordingly. There is nothing dark or evil about any aspect of it. Also becoming a Wicca is a choice that one can make only by themselves. It does require alot of work so anyone that was pressured to join usually drops the religion within the first year. Wicca is completely open ended. You can worship any Deities you want along with the God and Goddess. Some former Christians choose to worship Abraham's God along with other Deities. Also Pagans do not believe in any sort of devil/evil diety.

I hope that helped to explain Paganism a little. Any other questions?

[Bean 2]

I myself am agnostic which means that I dont follow any religion but I still believe that their is a God. I cant understand people who think that there is no god and they call themselves atheist. There has to be some higher power who created the universe. It all had to come from somewhere, and yes science can explain the earths creation, but what about before that. Like was said before, the bible only tells stories that shouldnt be taken literally. I dont criticize anyone for believing in a religion but it annoys me when they try to push their religion and beliefs on other people which I think alot of Christians do. The rest of my family are Catholics, yet they dont go to church and from what I see they dont pray. How can you call yourself anything if you dont practice what the religion is based on. And Ive never told them that im agnostic because I know that they would try to convert me back to Catholicism. Believe in what you want but dont force your beliefs on me.

[ninty]

Isn't a antagonist one that not necessarialy believes there is a hgher being, but sees no proof for it, and no proof against it?

Thats how I basically see religion and spiritual stuff.

[Bean 2]

An antagonist is the character in a novel that opposes the protagonist...im not sure thats the word your looking for.

[ninty]

Error on my part. What's the plural for agnostic?

Anyway:

ag·nos·tic
n.

One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

[Old Reliable]

[quote="Bean 2":b15b6]I myself am agnostic which means that I dont follow any religion but I still believe that their is a God. I cant understand people who think that there is no god and they call themselves atheist. There has to be some higher power who created the universe. It all had to come from somewhere, and yes science can explain the earths creation, but what about before that. Like was said before, the bible only tells stories that shouldnt be taken literally. I dont criticize anyone for believing in a religion but it annoys me when they try to push their religion and beliefs on other people which I think alot of Christians do. The rest of my family are Catholics, yet they dont go to church and from what I see they dont pray. How can you call yourself anything if you dont practice what the religion is based on. And Ive never told them that im agnostic because I know that they would try to convert me back to Catholicism. Believe in what you want but dont force your beliefs on me.[/quote:b15b6]

a higher power creating the universe is beyond comprehension and is only a dream. it would totally deny all scientific findings to this date. how can you believe in something that doesn't exist or doesn't matter? and why need to worship something when it doesn't seem to give you benefits. (my opinion) if a god really paid attention to everyone, then why do good people die? (oh it was just his/her time) oOo:

[MrLevinstein]

[quote="Bean 2":8cdda]An antagonist is the character in a novel that opposes the protagonist...im not sure thats the word your looking for.[/quote:8cdda]

Haha thought the same thing.

I like quoting

I find it hard to believe that a person we havent heard from in 2000 years put us here. Science has disproved the Bible wrong soo many times. All the bible says is were Geocentric (everything revolves around the Earth), well people in Greek times found discoveries that we are in fact Heliocentric (Everything revolves around the sun). Well people will believe anything spoon fed to them when they are poor, uneducated and miserable.

Id like to believe that there is a god looking out for me and watching me but it's often hard to believe that he's sitting up there watching the Human race destroy its self.

[Coleman]

[quote="Old Reliable":3c979]
if a god really paid attention to everyone, then why do good people die? (oh it was just his/her time) oOo:[/quote:3c979]Well, i know this is a mistake by making a refrence to this but i'll do it anyway. Ever see Bruce Almighty? Well, Jim Carey basically gives everyone what they want. Because of that, all hell breaks out. Example: Thousands of people prayed to win the lottery, and they all won--> give everyone $17 since they all "technically" had the winning ticket. Then they got all pissed off and started riots, etc. That's one stupid little incident. Think about what would happen if God made "peace" on Earth. It wouldn't be Earth then. What would the point of Heaven be if it was already on Earth? Overpopulation would cause havoc on the world's supplies and it would cause more hardships---so by killing people now through small conflicts (and/or world wars), it reduces the severity of later occurances.

May I ask if any of you people saw the one show on Discovery about Noah's Ark being true? They believe that it could have happened in the Mesopotamia (sp?) region. Scientists do believe that a large flood occured in that area. A large boat could have easily been built to carry all the animals of the known world for them, not the entire Earth. There is flaw in the text about the Noah's Ark story, but some of us look at it from a 'present-day' perspective. If you look at it from thousands of years ago, it does make sense.

Some of you already knew that I'm a hardcore Catholic. We believe that the Bible was written by man, but it is the word of the Lord. Here's everything more in detail. We recite it during every mass:

[quote:3c979]The Nicene Creed
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.


[/quote:3c979]

We believe that the humans wrote down what God told them to write. It might not have been word for word of God though. Remember that Translations over the years changes the accuracy of the text as well. (I'm not saying that this makes up for the facts that have been proven wrong).

[Pvt.Pinhead]

Originally Posted by ninty9

The story of Adam and Eve is just an explanation for the beginning of man, not actually what happened necessarily.

Acually scientists believe the Human race was started by 1 male and 1 female, like we started as monkeys and all, but there was just 1 group of these monkey things that evolved in its own way away from the others and eventually 1 male and 1 female were created and they 2 started the human race, so Adam and Eve is probaly one of the more easier to understand stories.
I know I believe what my religion tells me Ive been touched by God before and because of this I dont ask "Why?" I just do what my religion tells me, I wouldnt care if the Pope said that Jesus was an alien or somethin wierd like that and Id believe...thats just my religion though and how I believe.
Internet polls are biased though, I find a lot more athiests on the enternet then I find Christians and I find more Christians in public life then I find athiests...sont know why...
I need to ask my Priest about wether or not all that is in the Bible is true or is just a way of stories so ppl understand better, I know certain Christian groups believe different things about the Bible and I forgot what Catholics believe...

EDIT:
I so hope this doesnt turn into another religion bashing thread that gets locked...

[guarnere]

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[Coleman]

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":c5505]

Originally Posted by ninty9

The story of Adam and Eve is just an explanation for the beginning of man, not actually what happened necessarily.

Acually scientists believe the Human race was started by 1 male and 1 female, like we started as monkeys and all, but there was just 1 group of these monkey things that evolved in its own way away from the others and eventually 1 male and 1 female were created and they 2 started the human race, so Adam and Eve is probaly one of the more easier to understand stories.
I know I believe what my religion tells me Ive been touched by God before and because of this I dont ask "Why?" I just do what my religion tells me, I wouldnt care if the Pope said that Jesus was an alien or somethin wierd like that and Id believe...thats just my religion though and how I believe.
Internet polls are biased though, I find a lot more athiests on the enternet then I find Christians and I find more Christians in public life then I find athiests...sont know why...
I need to ask my Priest about wether or not all that is in the Bible is true or is just a way of stories so ppl understand better, I know certain Christian groups believe different things about the Bible and I forgot what Catholics believe...

EDIT:
I so hope this doesnt turn into another religion bashing thread that gets locked...[/quote:c5505]I'm not sure where you get your information about evolution of 1 and 1. But, if i'm not mistaken, i think you need atleast 40 "animals" to create a new species. If everything started from 1 male and 1 female, then everyone would basically be retarded due to incest.

[Old Reliable]

then what happens to people who believe in different gods stupid:

[Coleman]

[quote="Old Reliable":23cdd]then what happens to people who believe in different gods stupid:[/quote:23cdd]there is tolerance and mercy. People who don't know any better do have a chance to get into heaven. Unbaptized babies that die go to "limbo" which is almost identical to heaven.