[Unknown_Sniper]

Originally Posted by c312

It's the same sort of thing as being a Frat pres in college. People know it's really hard and takes a lot of commitment and value people who can acheive it. The reason they get scholarships and stuff is because they have basically already proven that they can succeed in school and the workplace, whereas military personnel haven't necessarily shown the same qualities. It shows the university/employer that the person is a hardworker.

I dunno, My cousin who is going to be doing PJ rescue in the navy probably has harder classes than most people. He failed one test and his instructor told him if he failed another he was done. They have to know EVERYTHING about their job, and they have to know the job of everyone else in the helicopter incase they get killed(save flying the damn thing). Not to mention knowing every basic thing about all their equipment, and the enemies, how to survive, and they even do torture training oOo: . I think that shit alone deserves at least a scholarship. Well.....that is if he wasnt fulltime.

[Forte]

Originally Posted by Milla

Same, its BS these guys get scholarships but people that go into the armed service don't get shit but paid for a few calsses sleeping:

I respect your opinion. The whole thing behind boy scouts and getting the eagle rank is you have to work really fucking hard, for about 5 years straight. It looks very good on a college resume because it shows you are commited in the long run.

[CoMaToSe]

I was in boy scouts for a while. Although I enjopy camping and forced gay sex, my scout leaders were complete anal fags(in a non sexual way), so I quit. But I recognise the size of the accomplishment. Congratz forte beer:

[Pyro]

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[Poseidon]

I myself was in the ATC (air training corps for 6 years). Giving anything like this to an potential employer will automatically draw an interest to you.

Basically these kind of groups help build:

- Personal Commitment
- Leadership skills
- Teamwork skills
- Experience in many different situations (that could help in interviews)
- Self discipline
- Self confidence

Some of the many skills you can gain from going into such social groups. The exact skills most, if not all employers are looking for. You have experience in working in large and small groups, being a team worker and potentially leading a team. I plan to go and help out as staff once I turn 20, because I enjoyed it and I know quite a few people who also help out as staff (and I get paid biggrin: )

My last job interview I easily got through because almost every question - I was able to relate to my time in the ATC. Having been in certain situations and how I reacted and how I would react if in a simular situation again.

Besides I bet none of you have ever flown an aircraft solo (for free), Along with the many other activites they allow us to do. (canoeing, rock climbing, hiking, shooting)

This is just a short explaination as to why people join and stay in these types of social clubs. I ask that you dont take the piss out of them for doing something they enjoy!

[c312]

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":345ad]

Originally Posted by c312

It's the same sort of thing as being a Frat pres in college. People know it's really hard and takes a lot of commitment and value people who can acheive it. The reason they get scholarships and stuff is because they have basically already proven that they can succeed in school and the workplace, whereas military personnel haven't necessarily shown the same qualities. It shows the university/employer that the person is a hardworker.

I dunno, My cousin who is going to be doing PJ rescue in the navy probably has harder classes than most people. He failed one test and his instructor told him if he failed another he was done. They have to know EVERYTHING about their job, and they have to know the job of everyone else in the helicopter incase they get killed(save flying the damn thing). Not to mention knowing every basic thing about all their equipment, and the enemies, how to survive, and they even do torture training oOo: . I think that shit alone deserves at least a scholarship. Well.....that is if he wasnt fulltime.[/quote:345ad]

Yes, but that only proves that he can do what is necessary to preserve his life. That says nothing about your commitment to something that isn't vital to preserving your existance.

[Milla]

It's all rubbish imo lol

[SoLiDUS]

Scholarships should be based on one thing only: intellectual ability. To pretend that community service and other assorted feel-good requirements are important and necessary pre-requisites is... dumb.

[CoMaToSe]

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[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

Originally Posted by CoMaToSe

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[c312]

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

Scholarships should be based on one thing only: intellectual ability. To pretend that community service and other assorted feel-good requirements are important and necessary pre-requisites is... dumb.

The current system works better for universities own gains. Think about it, if they know someone will work hard, graduate from their university, continue working hard and donate lots of money back to them, they are gonna want them. Intellectual ability, while it does show the university that you could succeed, it doesn't prove that you will succeed, they don't know if you are a hard worker or if you even care about working. So it's more beneficial to a college/university to give scholarships to people who they know are gonna get them money.

[mR.cLeAn]

I did boyscouts in Venezuela. That was hella nice. We went hiking on the Avila in Caracas every weekend, we also went to the amazon and Los Llanos (The plains - nothing but grass and spots of forestations for hundreds of miles around) - That was the best part cause you could fish for Pirahnas.

I was the only spanish kid there, the rest were kids of US Embassy employees, and other US officials in Venezuela. I guess that was my way of learning english.