Bush being re-elected in 2004? - Page 7

ninty · 11-27-2003, 03:13 PM

How does the amount of states affect anything? You could have 5 million states. What difference does it make. And the largest state is California with about 30 million people. Many european countries are larger than 30 million with the exception of luxembourg and other countries similar. Germany, France, Britain, Italy, Poland, Spain, Russia, Ukraine all have more than 30 million people.

Short Hand · 11-27-2003, 03:25 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":f405e][quote="Short Hand":f405e]Maybe if you took 5 seconds too look into their circumstances or spent 10 days on the street then you would know. Your just a priviledged white kid with no real idea of poverty o any type of struggle. Ohh ya by the way hasn't the african American been here just as long ? hasn't the native American been here just as long ? Why are they still not at the same equal stance as us ? Please tell me why ? Is it because they are just well a different skin colour and that makes them lazy to you ? That right there is your racism pure and defined. If not racism then it is some sure strong as hell discrimination. You brush their place off in Society as some sort thing they should over come as nothing. History is fucking proof that the poor allways have a highe crime rate then the wealthy. It also seems that you are falling off topic to my points. You simply brush off my poverty point and then go on to brag about the whites accomplishments. This is you just crumbling to you insane ideas of whites some how being better which again defines you as a racist peson. By the way Native Americans and African Americans fought just as hard in both WW1 and 2 Korea "VIETNAM" So don't bring up the my whitegrandfather fought for their asses because they fought just as hard for their own. You are racist so please don't try and say you not.

Done Fucking Rant.[/quote:f405e]

What is that? You just rambeled on about them being poor as the excuse for their high crime rates, and if you actually read and comprehended what i wrote before then you would have under stood why alot of minorities are in the position they are in right now, they dont want to work hard to pull themselves out. And if our society is so racist like you make it seem then why are there some sucessful minorities, not celelberties...but just normal people who live the normal middle class american life?? There is no racist conspiracy holding minorities down in this country at all you idiot, there are plenty of oprotunities available to everyone here, especially minorities now a days here in the states, the only problem is lack of motivation or will to work hard to better their situation. I will agree prior to the civil rights act of 1964 that minorities were not on an equal playing fields with whites and were being descrimated against severely, but you know what...its been 40 years, and so much things have changed, theirs now plenty of oprotunities for them to over come their current situation, all they have to do is work hard for it, like every other american who has something. In addition, there are no starving people in the united states...if you would take a look a the charts i provided on the types of crimes being comited, they weren't "survival crimes" like stealing so you can feed your family, they were violent crimes like rape, murder, and armed robbery. True in history the lower echelons of society who were denied basic services and had no other oprotunity but to steal to feed their families is one thing, but selling drugs, stealing, and murdering so you can have more "luxuries" like the new nike's or some platinum rims on their car, etc is a completly diferent story. Like I said earlier poverty isnt an excuse, no ones starving or struggling EVERYONE has acess to wellfare, food stamps, and medicare which provide food and medical service to all us citizens, public schools and afirmitive action programs provide the oprotunity for minorities to get an education and improve their status, all they have to do is take advantage of them and work hard in school, the ball has been in their court for a while, the oprotunities for them to suceed have been there...and some have taken advantage of it and are prospering here, while sadly the majority continue to sit around and commit crimes and collect hand outs because, hey...why work when uncle sam will feed you, and the extra cash you get from selling drugs will pay for your other needs?[/quote:f405e]

IYou call me the rambling idiot ? Or is that because you only read the last line of my whole post. Read before you whine you fucking red neck. Im talking about per capita not just the whole danm country.

Eames · 11-27-2003, 04:54 PM

[quote="Short Hand":7408b][quote="Cpl. Eames":7408b][quote="Short Hand":7408b]Maybe if you took 5 seconds too look into their circumstances or spent 10 days on the street then you would know. Your just a priviledged white kid with no real idea of poverty o any type of struggle. Ohh ya by the way hasn't the african American been here just as long ? hasn't the native American been here just as long ? Why are they still not at the same equal stance as us ? Please tell me why ? Is it because they are just well a different skin colour and that makes them lazy to you ? That right there is your racism pure and defined. If not racism then it is some sure strong as hell discrimination. You brush their place off in Society as some sort thing they should over come as nothing. History is fucking proof that the poor allways have a highe crime rate then the wealthy. It also seems that you are falling off topic to my points. You simply brush off my poverty point and then go on to brag about the whites accomplishments. This is you just crumbling to you insane ideas of whites some how being better which again defines you as a racist peson. By the way Native Americans and African Americans fought just as hard in both WW1 and 2 Korea "VIETNAM" So don't bring up the my whitegrandfather fought for their asses because they fought just as hard for their own. You are racist so please don't try and say you not.

Done Fucking Rant.[/quote:7408b]

What is that? You just rambeled on about them being poor as the excuse for their high crime rates, and if you actually read and comprehended what i wrote before then you would have under stood why alot of minorities are in the position they are in right now, they dont want to work hard to pull themselves out. And if our society is so racist like you make it seem then why are there some sucessful minorities, not celelberties...but just normal people who live the normal middle class american life?? There is no racist conspiracy holding minorities down in this country at all you idiot, there are plenty of oprotunities available to everyone here, especially minorities now a days here in the states, the only problem is lack of motivation or will to work hard to better their situation. I will agree prior to the civil rights act of 1964 that minorities were not on an equal playing fields with whites and were being descrimated against severely, but you know what...its been 40 years, and so much things have changed, theirs now plenty of oprotunities for them to over come their current situation, all they have to do is work hard for it, like every other american who has something. In addition, there are no starving people in the united states...if you would take a look a the charts i provided on the types of crimes being comited, they weren't "survival crimes" like stealing so you can feed your family, they were violent crimes like rape, murder, and armed robbery. True in history the lower echelons of society who were denied basic services and had no other oprotunity but to steal to feed their families is one thing, but selling drugs, stealing, and murdering so you can have more "luxuries" like the new nike's or some platinum rims on their car, etc is a completly diferent story. Like I said earlier poverty isnt an excuse, no ones starving or struggling EVERYONE has acess to wellfare, food stamps, and medicare which provide food and medical service to all us citizens, public schools and afirmitive action programs provide the oprotunity for minorities to get an education and improve their status, all they have to do is take advantage of them and work hard in school, the ball has been in their court for a while, the oprotunities for them to suceed have been there...and some have taken advantage of it and are prospering here, while sadly the majority continue to sit around and commit crimes and collect hand outs because, hey...why work when uncle sam will feed you, and the extra cash you get from selling drugs will pay for your other needs?[/quote:7408b]

IYou call me the rambling idiot ? Or is that because you only read the last line of my whole post. Read before you whine you fucking red neck. Im talking about per capita not just the whole danm country.[/quote:7408b]

I dont even know what your talking about, I answered your question of "why minorities arent as prosperous in the united states?" and i debunked your "their impoverished thats why they comit crime" argument. And you think im whining? I'm defending my position from the attacks of whiney liberals like yourself whose best argument against me is "im racist" "minorities fail because your racist" which is complete bull shit...just admit it, ive owned you in this just like i owned stryker on the iraq issue.

Short Hand · 11-27-2003, 05:07 PM

You debunked nothing. You only furthered the hate everyone has for you even more on this board. Please tell me again how did you refer to the native Americans ? Savages ? Wow thats not racism is it ? So don't go on saying your not because you are. You also refer to muslim's as rag heads. WHich again...get this .. IS a racist term. Just shut up and die. Your worse then fucking hayward.

Short Hand · 11-27-2003, 05:10 PM

Ohh and to add. You have owned nothing. Only yourself by revealing the true racist hateful person that you are. Have you ever watched American History X ? Please do and maybe youll see the real fucking truth and start to comprehend what the real world is.

ToeNail · 11-27-2003, 06:00 PM

[quote="Short Hand":f5f2f]Well lets see if you discriminate a people force them into the lower ends of society of course crime will occur at a higher rate with them. The highest crime rate happens to always be in the poorer group. The only reason African Americans and other minorities are in this lower class is because "US" the white people forced them into it with centurys of hatred discrmination etc etc. So therefore this whole problem started because of racism on us white people's behalf. I can assure you if it was vice versa then we would be the ones commiting the crimes.

Seriously your racism is starting to piss me off. If you haven't learnt anything from History racism only causes more hate and loss in the end.[/quote:f5f2f]
Are you referring to me???You so, I am extremely against racism. I just wish everyone is treated equal and not to be looked at different, In fact, I am one of them. I do not wanted to be treated differently just because the country I'm from or skin color. All I am stating, is, I don't know anything about Bush or what he does. I'm know NOTHING about polititics. I am very sorry for this. calmdown:

11-27-2003, 06:05 PM

lol, yeah I was sure "owned" when I proved that your idea of murdering all of Mosul would only make Iraq rise up and make a democratic Iraq impossible

Eames · 11-27-2003, 06:20 PM

[quote="Short Hand":f2e52]You debunked nothing. You only furthered the hate everyone has for you even more on this board. Please tell me again how did you refer to the native Americans ? Savages ? Wow thats not racism is it ? So don't go on saying your not because you are. You also refer to muslim's as rag heads. WHich again...get this .. IS a racist term. Just shut up and die. Your worse then fucking hayward.[/quote:f2e52]

What do you think indians are? Hmm let me see...minorities and united states citizens, who even have it better because they get all the benifits of us citizenship but can live on a reservation and not pay taxes, again they determine their own destiny by their motivation to improve their situation, its funny how your only arguments can be with my word choice, which Im sorry isnt the currently accepted politicaly correct termanology.

11-27-2003, 06:25 PM

the Indians are hardly savages,
not only do they have a culture, but they're pretty damn clever, they don't pay one cent in US taxes and take stupid people's money through casinos

Eames · 11-27-2003, 06:27 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":1a15a]the Indians are hardly savages,
not only do they have a culture, but they're pretty damn clever, they don't pay one cent in US taxes and take stupid people's money through casinos[/quote:1a15a]

exactly, but according to shorthand indians are in dire poverty and are starving because of a "white racist conspiracy" thats keeping them down.

11-27-2003, 06:31 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":44a22][quote="Sgt Stryker":44a22]the Indians are hardly savages,
not only do they have a culture, but they're pretty damn clever, they don't pay one cent in US taxes and take stupid people's money through casinos[/quote:44a22]

exactly, but according to shorthand indians are in dire poverty and are starving because of a "white racist conspiracy" thats keeping them down.[/quote:44a22]

I guess Dirk "Starbuck" Benedict visited one of their casinos and made them go broke biggrin:

Eames · 11-27-2003, 06:40 PM

Also, according to shorthand the following people are racist because of their word choice:

[quote="Sgt Stryker":572bf]

I don't think I've ever seen our protesters burn our flag, that's those ragheads in Saudi Arabia or wherever that one raghead caught himself on fire burning the flag biggrin:
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Originally Posted by Zoner

Fucking savages... annoy:

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Originally Posted by Cold

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idiot towell heads, we cant do that to ALL of iraq in 2 months.... hake:

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Originally Posted by Tystnad

Cant be arsed to make another quote..
We have tons of turkish and pakistanian people and about 98% of all the crimes commited here are made by them..
Still, we keep them in a short leash (SP?)..
Even though we dont have a death row or lifetime in prison here.. oOo:

So no thanks, i dont think we need more of the scum..
Thanks for asking though..

[/quote:572bf]

Does his political corectness know no end?

Short Hand · 11-27-2003, 10:25 PM

do you know no fucking end ? You never shut the fuck up.

If i remember correctly Zoner used that term to define the murder of the American soldiersi n the supply truck. That was not racist. He was reffering to those specific group of people at that time. They were savage for what they did.

Snuff · 11-28-2003, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tystnad

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Originally Posted by Hogman74

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Originally Posted by Tystnad

If you guys are going to have a president, please make sure hes not thicker than a chimp, ok?
Oh sorry, you already failed to do that.. oOo:

Please don't give your opinion.Your country hasn't taken a stand on anything in the last century so STFU. For all you US citizens bashing
Bush in this thread. I'm not saying you have to like him but at least show some respect to the office he holds and hold your negative comments to some level of maturity. For all you non-US citizens bashing him, your opinions really don't matter, worry about your own country. stupid:

Wtf is wrong with the most of you Americans?
The so called police of the world cant take criticism?
Crist, just look at the wealth of "my" country, adn compare it to yours..
Do we have cops dying about every single day? No.
Do banks get robbed about every day? No.
Do we have loads of gangs settling their affairs in the streets? No.
Do we have riots every now and then? No.
Do we have an unstable economy? No.

So just stfu and get out of my face will ya?
Wtf does Sweden not participating in any major conflicts (we do take a stand, asshat) have to do with me giving my opinion on your leader, the worlds mightiest man?

You must be the most narrowminded person i have ever had the unpleasure of reading a post from..

I hate you more than hayward now, congratulations.. hake:

Look fucktard, I don't care if you criticize president Bush , you have a right to your opinion.
I would hardly call what you said an opinion, Just a flaming insult about
the president of my country. It was not constructive criticism or really within the scope of the discussion. Just a smart ass comment that I didn't find funny. So close minded no, offended at your comment yes. I don't care if you like him or not, just be more mature about it. You don't see me making comments like that about the leader of your country, so why don't
you STFU and remember that not all people appreciate that shit even though there seems to be alot of anti-american sentiment on the forums
these days. the_finger: the_finger:

Eames · 11-28-2003, 02:09 AM

[quote="Short Hand":ed04a]do you know no fucking end ? You never shut the fuck up.

If i remember correctly Zoner used that term to define the murder of the American soldiersi n the supply truck. That was not racist. He was reffering to those specific group of people at that time. They were savage for what they did.[/quote:ed04a]

Oh, well, he was replying to the same thread i was...if his comments werent racist then why are mine? And what about what everyone else says? Just admit it you lost move on, none of your points you have been able to back up, all you can do is flame, and now we're resolving whether whose word choice is "racist" and whose isnt, the topic has already gotten extremely offtopic, even for an offtopic section...i have backed up all of my statements with facts and reasonable arguments that you havent been able to discredit at all, so just admit it you were mistaken about the way things are in america and lets move on.