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03-17-2005, 05:15 PM
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If Israel does attack Iran I hope someone nukes Tel Aviv. Israel are the only nation in the middle east known to have Nukes, when will they disarm? If it's ok for Israel to have them why can't Iran?
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because Israel is an ally of the US, in an area where the US doesnt have many allies. It is very valuable to the US, so the US would never do anything to jedardize its relations with Israel.
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still dodging the point, why should people be killed in the name of disarmament, when the U.S. and its allys can freely build and keep these weapons? seems kind of backwards, dont you think?[/quote:e9c82]lol. of course. Im not agruing with that. Wat i am trying to oint out tho, is the US isnt interested in doing wtas "right," the only thing the US cares about is protecting its interests. And in case anybody is wondering, yes i am a US citizen.
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03-17-2005, 05:21 PM
[quote=Trunks]
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If Israel does attack Iran I hope someone nukes Tel Aviv. Israel are the only nation in the middle east known to have Nukes, when will they disarm? If it's ok for Israel to have them why can't Iran?
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because Israel is an ally of the US, in an area where the US doesnt have many allies. It is very valuable to the US, so the US would never do anything to jedardize its relations with Israel.
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still dodging the point, why should people be killed in the name of disarmament, when the U.S. and its allys can freely build and keep these weapons? seems kind of backwards, dont you think?
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lol. of course. Im not agruing with that. Wat i am trying to oint out tho, is the US isnt interested in doing wtas "right," the only thing the US cares about is protecting its interests. And in case anybody is wondering, yes i am a US citizen.[/quote:91df1]
calmdown: I thought you were defending their actions, sorry.
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03-17-2005, 05:31 PM
[quote=strvs]
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If Israel does attack Iran I hope someone nukes Tel Aviv. Israel are the only nation in the middle east known to have Nukes, when will they disarm? If it's ok for Israel to have them why can't Iran?
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because Israel is an ally of the US, in an area where the US doesnt have many allies. It is very valuable to the US, so the US would never do anything to jedardize its relations with Israel.
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still dodging the point, why should people be killed in the name of disarmament, when the U.S. and its allys can freely build and keep these weapons? seems kind of backwards, dont you think?
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lol. of course. Im not agruing with that. Wat i am trying to oint out tho, is the US isnt interested in doing wtas "right," the only thing the US cares about is protecting its interests. And in case anybody is wondering, yes i am a US citizen.
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calmdown: I thought you were defending their actions, sorry.[/quote:da0ea]np beer:
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03-17-2005, 07:57 PM
[quote="Mr.Buttocks":44975]Israel are the only nation in the middle east known to have Nukes, when will they disarm?[/quote:44975]
Israel is literally about the size of a postage stamp on a football field in terms of relative size to the middle east. OK maybe a little bigger. However the rest of the football field has made it very plain that they have a problem with that postage stamp on their field and wish to see it destroyed. Would you disarm if you were Israel?
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03-17-2005, 08:01 PM
if i were isreal i would shut the fuck up
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03-18-2005, 01:06 AM
[quote=strvs]
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Originally Posted by "Mr.Buttocks":aaa0c
If Israel does attack Iran I hope someone nukes Tel Aviv. Israel are the only nation in the middle east known to have Nukes, when will they disarm? If it's ok for Israel to have them why can't Iran?
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because Israel is an ally of the US, in an area where the US doesnt have many allies. It is very valuable to the US, so the US would never do anything to jedardize its relations with Israel.
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still dodging the point, why should people be killed in the name of disarmament, when the U.S. and its allys can freely build and keep these weapons? seems kind of backwards, dont you think?[/quote:aaa0c]
yes it kind of is. But dont you think it is better having democracy instead of dictatorship? In other words would you rather live somewhere else besides the U.S. but it has to be somewhere were different opinions are ignored or prosecuted. eek: I was going to develop these ideas but my mind went blank^^ anyways what i was going to say in a really short phrase is that americans just want to protect what they have. that s what i think so dont shoot me if you think im wrong or you know im wrong angel:
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03-18-2005, 10:16 AM
Israel does not call for the Arab nations to dissolve and their citizens to leave, last I checked.
Israel isn't burning Iranian or Iraqi flags and firing AK-47s in the air calling for "the streets of Israel to run red with the blood of the infidel Jews."
As was so ironically stated in another thread in regards to Iran discussing counterattacking countries which were acting with a degree of hostility toward it:
[quote:a82c2]You can't really blame them.[/quote:a82c2]
If you guys want to scream about double standards, check your own first. Damn hypocrites.

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03-18-2005, 10:25 AM
And before anyone tries to argue, here are some quotes from the Iran thread.
I guess from this one can understand that Muslims can make threats against people who are constantly hostile against them, however Jews may not.
You guys are a bunch of anti-semites, I guess. Especially since Israel has never, ever tried to do anything but exist. The only time they ever even invaded another country was during the Six Day War (that's the name, right?) and that was a counter-invasion of Lebanon. Lebanon had been the aggressor and invaded Israel first.
Iran, as you'll recall, has tried to overtake its neighbors several times in its past.
But without further adieu, here are plenty of quotes from your friendly neighborhood anti-Semites. Either that or they're all just flaming hypocrites:
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“If someone harms our people and invades our country, we will endanger his interests anywhere in the world.”
That pretty much sums it up ....defense. I don't blame them either, any country in their situation would most likely be preparing some kind of counter-attack.
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well number one, i dont blame them
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Iran is getting bullied and they are doing whatever they can to try to stop it.
People can't leave people alone these days.
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I wonder if they will try something, you cant really blame them.
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03-18-2005, 10:33 AM
i guess i hate jews then
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03-18-2005, 10:37 AM
OK, so if you were aware of the fact that the strongest miltary power in the world was planning to invade your country, you would take no action to prepare for this? It's all im saying. You have a good way of putting words in peoples mouths.
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03-18-2005, 11:22 AM
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OK, so if you were aware of the fact that the strongest miltary power in the world was planning to invade your country, you would take no action to prepare for this? It's all im saying. You have a good way of putting words in peoples mouths.
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but ask yourself this question, why is the strongest military power planning to invade my country??
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03-18-2005, 11:31 AM
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OK, so if you were aware of the fact that the strongest miltary power in the world was planning to invade your country, you would take no action to prepare for this? It's all im saying. You have a good way of putting words in peoples mouths.
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The US is not planning to invade Iran. The media would love to see this happen and likes to read into every military maneuver as an indication of a "build up" to an invasion. There was no invasion when the Iranian students took the US embassy personnel hostage in the 80's (when relations were much worse) and there will be no invasion now. calmdown:
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03-18-2005, 11:34 AM
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OK, so if you were aware of the fact that the strongest miltary power in the world was planning to invade your country, you would take no action to prepare for this? It's all im saying. You have a good way of putting words in peoples mouths.
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but ask yourself this question, why is the strongest military power planning to invade my country??
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Imperialism at it's finest. sleeping: What if bombs were going to be dropped on your town, where your family and friends all live? Would you still think this way?
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03-18-2005, 11:35 AM
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OK, so if you were aware of the fact that the strongest miltary power in the world was planning to invade your country, you would take no action to prepare for this? It's all im saying. You have a good way of putting words in peoples mouths.
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The US is not planning to invade Iran. The media would love to see this happen and likes to read into every military maneuver as an indication of a "build up" to an invasion. There was no invasion when the Iranian students took the US embassy personnel hostage in the 80's (when relations were much worse) and there will be no invasion now. calmdown:
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Yea, but an israel-iranian war is very much a possibilty. And you know who'd be masterminding the campaign...
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03-18-2005, 11:41 AM
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OK, so if you were aware of the fact that the strongest miltary power in the world was planning to invade your country, you would take no action to prepare for this? It's all im saying. You have a good way of putting words in peoples mouths.
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The US is not planning to invade Iran. The media would love to see this happen and likes to read into every military maneuver as an indication of a "build up" to an invasion. There was no invasion when the Iranian students took the US embassy personnel hostage in the 80's (when relations were much worse) and there will be no invasion now. calmdown:
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Yea, but an israel-iranian war is very much a possibilty. And you know who'd be masterminding the campaign...
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Israel would definately need some help. Who knows the most about occupying middle eastern countries? annoy:
We'll see what happens though. We can't jump to any conclusions...yet.
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