[geRV]

[quote="Jin-Roh":f4b84]

Is it Polycount that determines how nice the graphics could be??[/quote:f4b84]

Lot of things determine how good the game can look, polycount can make the models look more detailed but so can bumpmapping, also some modellers can make a low poly model look just as good as a high poly model due to hand drawn detail in the textures.

Lighting\texturing etc all add to how good the game looks as well.

[Hawke]

[quote=geRV]

Originally Posted by "Jin-Roh":d4a4a

Is it Polycount that determines how nice the graphics could be??

Lot of things determine how good the game can look, polycount can make the models look more detailed but so can bumpmapping, also some modellers can make a low poly model look just as good as a high poly model due to hand drawn detail in the textures.

Lighting\texturing etc all add to how good the game looks as well.[/quote:d4a4a]
For the most part it does have to do with detail. However it also deals with gameplay. If you have something 20,000 polycounts [which is insanely high] then its going to run worse than something with 2,000 [which is still somewhat high]. So when you have 200 high polycount models running around, you could have trouble.

[Nyck]

sounds ambitious. too bad EVERY MP omaha type map sucks. mgs and snprs for germans on hill, yay.

guess weapon limits would have to be in order, which would of course make people cry

[lasagna]

Originally Posted by Nyck

sounds ambitious. too bad EVERY MP omaha type map sucks. mgs and snprs for germans on hill, yay.

guess weapon limits would have to be in order, which would of course make people cry

wtf.... omaha_obj_3 was the fucking shit!

[[DAS REICH] Blitz]

pretty sure omaha wasn't in the obj_3 sequence

[Sirus]

Originally Posted by Nyck

sounds ambitious. too bad EVERY MP omaha type map sucks. mgs and snprs for germans on hill, yay.

guess weapon limits would have to be in order, which would of course make people cry

you forgot rifles cool:

[CoMaToSe]

Originally Posted by lasagna

wtf.... omaha_obj_3 was the fucking shit!

man, I forgot all about that. Ground level entrances FTL

[geRV]

Originally Posted by Nyck

guess weapon limits would have to be in order, which would of course make people cry

Kinda like red orchestra, most of the maps have 1 sniper per side so whoever gets into the server first will almost always pick that rifle no matter what. Every map in the game has a really large scale to it and every clas has a limit, so if you load the map slower than everyone you can be stuck with an smg and get your ass handed to you by everyone else who has a rifle. The ranges are so extreme half the time you can;t even see who killed you or from where. annoy:

Vehicle combat can be fun though, pity the tiger tank for some reason gets owned by pretty much every other tank in the game. oOo:

[Stammer]

About the 250,000 units and graphics...

Originally Posted by RonanHayes

No it doesnt effect the game, we have a very aggressive Terrain system that handles all of this really well. We have this algorithm to the AI as well.

So realistically you the player will really only every be aware of whats directly around you, and off in the distance everything else is calculated on a far less accurate level.

If you want to look up on terrain rendering have a read of this:

[url:8b5a9]http://www.terrain.dk/[/url:8b5a9]

There are pdf, demos etc. All good and very high quality terrain, that doesnt pop in as you moves along. It has a very nice morph. Now this is just the application its not how it works in game. You must remember that the terrain shown there is around 25,000 meters per pixel. Or terrain is around 2 meters per pixel. So that actually ensures that the morphing isnt even evident. So the level doesnt pop and you dont see the morphing or any other strange artifacts common with other games.

Now with regards to caching.

When you install the game you may have the following structure:

--1944 D-Day
----System
----Fonts
----Modules
------Overlord
----Graphics
----Shaders

When you load the game for the first time, and select your settings. You are effectively telling the game. I want these settings now setup the data to make this as efficient as hell.

So it takes all the textures, all the models etc and caches them with these settings embeded:



--1944 D-Day
----Cache (It creates a Cache Folder, which is all the files optomised)
----System
----Fonts
----Modules
------Overlord
----Graphics
----Shaders

The only time when you will have long loading times again is if you change the graphics settings. Changing these will mean the cache needs to be rebuilt.

Originally Posted by RonanHayes

The game doesnt feature 250,000 units on screen at once, it doesnt even feature 250,000 units in the background. What it does is manages all the units directly around the player, then it groups all the units into the relevant Military groupings, thus reducing the processing from a unit to unit level right up to a battalion level.

Its fast its efficient and its only numbers, which all pocessors handle really well. These structures are also stored as C Structs so they can be loaded directly in. This means that there is no parsing, no odd calculating requried. It simply loads in the information directly and applies it...

If you are going to do something this complicated you may as well spend the time doing it right

For a dev company that doesn't even have a publisher, they really have their shit together.

sounds awesome, EA should take a few pointers from them and pass em onto their developers.

[Eames]

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":47f25]pretty sure omaha wasn't in the obj_3 sequence[/quote:47f25]

omaha beach was obj_team3 or whatever in mohaa

[Zoner]

Sniping from the Higgin's Boat 4tw!

[Proteus]

Lag 4tw is probably more like it. Sounds like you need a little more than a top quality PC to run that on normal.