[Vance]

WTF HAPPENED TO NO FLAMING?

[Mr.Buttocks]

Originally Posted by Vance

WTF HAPPENED TO NO FLAMING?

FUCK YOU!

[Vance]

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":24c3a]

Originally Posted by Vance

WTF HAPPENED TO NO FLAMING?

FUCK YOU![/quote:24c3a]
THATS IT, NO GF PICS FOR YOU

[KTOG]

I wouldn't mind paying an extra hundred bucks in taxes if it went towards something i cared about. I'm not greedy like some people, a hundred dollars is nothing these days. Raise taxes i say if its going towards a good cause.

[Coleman]

Originally Posted by KTOG

I wouldn't mind paying an extra hundred bucks in taxes if it went towards something i cared about. I'm not greedy like some people, a hundred dollars is nothing these days. Raise taxes i say if its going towards a good cause.

I think we need to buy every soldier abroad a good pair of Oakley sun glasses oOo: happy:

[Short Hand]

Originally Posted by MrLevinstein

the idiocy

the ego

the misundsersteanding

the nosiness

the steroids

the dumb opinions

stfu slut

your one to talk. rolleyes:

[Bleuachdu]

My vote is up in the air at this point... I have a few key things to consider:

Fiscally speaking, I think the Republicans have it right, I'm afraid that if John Kerry gets into office, I'm going to be taxed to shit. Unlike ktog3, I don't want national health care or any unnecessary social programs. If I can afford my own health care, good for me. Yes, I'm that filthy of a capitalist pig. Oink Oink.

Security wise, I'm not sure who is going to do a better job. I think we need more diplomacy and less of the "shoot first ask later" mentality. I'm concerned if GW Bush is elected we'll be starting another war soon, which also has a potentially negative effect of the economy. However, I think our nation is at a very high risk for terrorist attack; even though 9/11 was 3 years ago, it still happened, and a lot of good innocent people died. I don't ever want to see anything like that happen again. Bush has prevented it for a few years, but I fear that he may just be pissing off the terror groups even more.

In regards to Foreign Policy, I like GW Bush's conviction; some says its a symptom of being stubborn or bullheaded. I disagree and think it is a very respectable thing to take such a firm stance. If he were to back down or change his mind, it could be considered a sign of weakness. However, being a "strong defender of freedom" may not be the best thing for our nation. The economy is quickly becoming global. If we force other countries to be "for us or against us" we can disrupt free trade and hinder our ability to grow.

I guess in a nutshell, I am afraid that Kerry will drive us into tax driven inflation hell (think Jimmy Carter) and Bush will steer us into Rome-esque war mongering. Which is worse? I don't know. I like Bush's character much more than Kerry's, except for the diplomacy thing. Ohh what a choice; God Bless America!

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by KTOG

9/11 was 3 years ago. Tell me something recent GWB did lately and i'll praise him. One trick whore.

Caught Sadam.

[wintersforge]

[quote:06143]The economy is quickly becoming global. If we force other countries to be "for us or against us" we can disrupt free trade and hinder our ability to grow.
[/quote:06143]

US has way to much economical clout for 2-3rd tier economies to thumbs their collective noses up to us for acting unilaterally...all the major capitalist countries have an irrevocable stake in our nation...as goes the US economy so goes the world...and thats where our true power lies IMHO.

I think the major factor everyone seems to forget is what happens when the Arab states decide to turn the oil faucet off? Or it runs out? But then again that might...might drive the price of oil up and other nations would suffer...unless they act unilaterally and cut a deal with Russia, Venezuela...etc

Id like to see a major move towards a renewable energy source or alternative, AFORDABLE energy substitue.... cause the dino bones aint gonna last forever.... hake:

[Proteus]

Magnets.

[Bleuachdu]

Originally Posted by wintersforge

[quote:e62a4]The economy is quickly becoming global. If we force other countries to be "for us or against us" we can disrupt free trade and hinder our ability to grow.

US has way to much economical clout for 2-3rd tier economies to thumbs their collective noses up to us for acting unilaterally...all the major capitalist countries have an irrevocable stake in our nation...as goes the US economy so goes the world...and thats where our true power lies IMHO.

I think the major factor everyone seems to forget is what happens when the Arab states decide to turn the oil faucet off? Or it runs out? But then again that might...might drive the price of oil up and other nations would suffer...unless they act unilaterally and cut a deal with Russia, Venezuela...etc

Id like to see a major move towards a renewable energy source or alternative, AFORDABLE energy substitue.... cause the dino bones aint gonna last forever.... hake:[/quote:e62a4]

I agree with the renewable energy source idea, although its not at the top of my list of priorities. Why? I'm a heartless bastard and I've read that theres enough oil to last til the end of my lifetime cool:

In all seriousness, you're right about other countries having major dependancies on the value of the US dollar and in our economy. However, look at China; their economy is growing faster than anything else on record. Is it possible that they could surpass us in economic strength? If so, do we then become dependant on them? Do other countires look to China for strength and support? I'm not sure that this will happen, and if it does, it certainly won't be next week. But its something to consider. India is also an up and coming economic force. Lots to think about

[Milla]

Originally Posted by Noctis

"[John Kerry] is a man who has to Google his own name to find out where he stands."

ROFL!!!!! rock:

[TGB!]

[quote="Short Hand":c8072]ok TGB im not economic expert...but I do kind of know things like this...[/quote:c8072]

Absolutely irrelevant. The United States has been operating with a trade def for quite some time now (one that is many times that of the federal def). We borrow what we dont have. However the bottom line is that Kerry believes the economy will miraculous multiple by leaps and bounds simply by virtue of him getting into office, and that raising taxes on folks making over 200K, penalizing American companies that are getting out of the tax quagmire that is the US tax code, and initiating 2 trillion dollars worth of bloated government will all somehow work itself out with each other. Not gonna happen.

[TGB!]

[quote:0b3fa]Is it possible that they could surpass us in economic strength?[/quote:0b3fa]

Not any time soon. While their growth rate is high we can attribute that to relaxed econ regulation on a closed market. However, the purchasing power per capita is like 4-6 thousand dollars. Thats what happens when centralized China is fast becoming urbanized, and you still have 100's of millions of Chinese farmworkers living in the midlands. Central China is 1st world, mainland China is still 3rd world.

[Old Reliable]

um , check your facts bub, by the year 2020 or so, china will be the strongest economic power. their only problem, like us are the environmental concerns. so bascially by 2100 economic growth wont matter and governments will be too busy scrambling to clean up the planet