What do you guys think.... - Page 5

Ferich · 05-09-2003, 06:05 PM

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":16d23]The meaning of life is probably one of the easiest auestions ever to anwser. The purpose of life is to accept God, worship Him, and lead others to Him, not asking much from One who died for us, do not worry about giving me those bonus points.

There is no reason to fear death, just accept Jesus! There is much evidence of a higher beign, just look at the world around you, you think it was created all on its own?[/quote:16d23]

This is going to spark a discussion..I can just feel it.

guarnere · 05-09-2003, 06:13 PM

no one got it yet wink:

Bucknub · 05-09-2003, 06:19 PM

i know what it is..

I asked Gaurnere on MSN biggrin:

MrLevinstein · 05-09-2003, 06:28 PM

Live, thrive, make baby(s), die.

Anything else is just a bonus

CaP bUsTa · 05-09-2003, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty9

Ok, on the whole ife after death thing, you wouldn't really know, unless this is all of our first lives.

If I've had previous lives, I don't remember tham, which means in the future, if I ahev lives, I won't know it (today and being me). So if I can't even remember other lives, then what is the point. If every life is seperate, I would never know that I had previous lives, or been reincarnated, so whats the point?

If someone understood that, good for you, cause I don't think I did.

Anyway, I don't believe in reincarnation or second lives or any of that stuff.

Yea I understand what your saying and it frustrates me to no end. Religion to me is something that humans thought of to try to explain why we are here and how we got here. This is a question we can only answer after we are gone, and by then its too late. Religion is a way of understanding something that cant be understood. Like saying we all evolved from a single cell, it is just another theory. I wish I knew anything at all.

Duke_of_Ray · 05-09-2003, 10:58 PM

[quote:c5070]no one got it yet [/quote:c5070]

Or did you not get the awnser you wanted, becuase I do believe I got it. :)

guarnere · 05-10-2003, 12:47 AM

nope, no one got it, you're all just beating around the bush basically.. wink:

snipeymagoo · 05-10-2003, 01:01 AM

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":611ee]When a person dies, they go one or two places,Heaven or Hell. There is a way though to be svaed from spending eternity in hell, and that is by accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. If you choose not to accept Him, you will die and go to hell, but by asking Jesus into your heart you will be saved and spend eternity in Heaven, why fear death when you know you will be in a better place? You can be saved by COnfessing with your mouth Jesus is Lord and Beliving your heart God rose Him from the dead.

[url="http://jesusgift.com/"]http://jesusgift.com/[/url][/quote:611ee]
few typos, but it is true, thats what i believe

SoLiDUS · 05-10-2003, 04:08 AM

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":a9127]The meaning of life is probably one of the easiest auestions ever to anwser. The purpose of life is to accept God, worship Him, and lead others to Him, not asking much from One who died for us, do not worry about giving me those bonus points.

There is no reason to fear death, just accept Jesus! There is much evidence of a higher beign, just look at the world around you, you think it was created all on its own?[/quote:a9127]

Unfortunately, that is your contention, and only a contingent truth.
Furthermore, I ask you to present this so-called evidence of a deity
or creational entity: I'm not honestly asking, because I know for a
fact that you cannot provide any factual / tangible evidence but just
humor me for a moment, if you can.

mrangry · 05-10-2003, 04:29 AM

i don't think i could put it any better than you just did. god damn bible thumpers...hey that's kinda funny evil:

05-10-2003, 05:17 AM

OK, the bible says God is loving and forgiving. Therefore God must have created us because he loved us and care about us.....then he suddenly leaves us to fend for ourselves! (look at the state of the world around you) Then theres the concept of all those who does not believe about him or know him must suddenly go to hell to suffer eternal pain and damnation. Now what kind of caring and loving father would do that to his children and send them to eternal pain. Its simply ludricious. The whole concept of heaven and hell therefore to me is fake, you know how the church in the past has so clearly altered the bible mixing it with other pagan philosophies in order to fit their selfish needsn. This whole heaven and hell thing was in my opinion put in order to control the kings and queens from breaking away from the church.
I'm sure there something far more unique than "beleive in God and you will goto Heaven, dont beleive in God and you will burn in hell". Its jsut that the bible has been altered too much by man to gain power....as usual.

[DAS REICH] Blitz · 05-10-2003, 05:58 AM

alrighty then

Duke_of_Ray · 05-10-2003, 09:39 AM

[quote:73412]few typos[/quote:73412]

Yea, I can not type to good, probably should start using home row. :)

[quote:73412]Unfortunately, that is your contention, and only a contingent truth.
Furthermore, I ask you to present this so-called evidence of a deity
or creational entity: I'm not honestly asking, because I know for a
fact that you cannot provide any factual / tangible evidence but just
humor me for a moment, if you can. [/quote:73412]

YOu want ecidence of God's exsistance? Well just look ate the world, its tangible. How could everything get so complex with out s supreme beign creating it? How could have all the particles that where part of the "Big Bang", if that really happend, been formed all on their own? Also read the Bible, just give it a good read, look at all the prophecies Jesus met, no man has done something likke that. Another thing is, look at a person who is truly save by Jesus, look how much happier they are, and how content they are, and how their life changes. Ask God to help you see Him, He will be more than happy to do it.

[quote:73412]OK, the bible says God is loving and forgiving. Therefore God must have created us because he loved us and care about us.....then he suddenly leaves us to fend for ourselves! (look at the state of the world around you) Then theres the concept of all those who does not believe about him or know him must suddenly go to hell to suffer eternal pain and damnation. Now what kind of caring and loving father would do that to his children and send them to eternal pain. Its simply ludricious. The whole concept of heaven and hell therefore to me is fake, you know how the church in the past has so clearly altered the bible mixing it with other pagan philosophies in order to fit their selfish needsn. This whole heaven and hell thing was in my opinion put in order to control the kings and queens from breaking away from the church.
I'm sure there something far more unique than "beleive in God and you will goto Heaven, dont beleive in God and you will burn in hell". Its jsut that the bible has been altered too much by man to gain power....as usual. [/quote:73412]

Well, God does love us, and has not left us here to fend for ourselves. As for thoe who do not believe, then yes they do go to Hell, but you cannot say God does not love us, becuase He gives you an easy way to Heaven, just accept His son, Jesus. The Chruch has not always represented the true face of Christ, and thsi is really sad becuase of all the people they hurt. Now you might say, well some people never hear the message, well for tose people, I believe if they live justly they to will see Heaven. So like it or not there is a Heaven and there is a Hell, its up to you which one you choose to go to.

MrLevinstein · 05-10-2003, 09:52 AM

Your really start to scare me Duke of ray. You keep saying god loves you and stuff like that and its start to wierd me out I guess. Where's god now? Off doing good deeds in the middle east? Oh yes thats right. Stop believing the priests and open your eyes. It's pretty clear to me you use your religion as a scapegoat. Where's god everytime people get killed? If god was around we would live in a utopia and everyone would have the same god. Stop being such a tool. Take your teachings elsewhere, because unlike the missionarys no one wants to hear "God is the way, not let your son become an Alter boy, and many good things will happen to him". Now STFU about "the good lord" thats loves to help. Now about he stops helping..... oh wait he doesnt help anyone because he doesn't exist.

05-10-2003, 10:11 AM

shut up with your God Crap, Stop trying to get people to beleive in your religion. Some guy who did to much drugs probably said he was the son of god, and made of all this bullshit.

[quote:d0069]
YOu want ecidence of God's exsistance? Well just look ate the world, its tangible. How could everything get so complex with out s supreme beign creating it? How could have all the particles that where part of the "Big Bang", if that really happend, been formed all on their own? Also read the Bible, just give it a good read, look at all the prophecies Jesus met, no man has done something likke that. Another thing is, look at a person who is truly save by Jesus, look how much happier they are, and how content they are, and how their life changes. Ask God to help you see Him, He will be more than happy to do it. [/quote:d0069]

The Bible is just a book, I could write a book saying I was Jesus II, And I am going to use my Plasma-ray on all of you. Now, Some of the stuff in the bible could be true, but it's just Exaggerated, alot. Like moses, it could have been a Tide, and then they crossed, it. then the Egyptians came, but the tide was going back, and by the time they were near the end of the River, the tide came back, and they couldn't cross and drowned.