What Do You THink ? - Page 8

bwolf · 12-15-2003, 12:54 AM

does anyone know postman's idea of machine ideology? i knew i should have read that book

Fireal · 12-15-2003, 12:55 AM

You're going to need a lot of coffee bro.

bwolf · 12-15-2003, 01:02 AM

[quote="Animal Mother":c33c6]You're going to need a lot of coffee bro.[/quote:c33c6]
i don't drink coffee.... but i'm almost ready for sleep.

SoLiDUS · 12-15-2003, 01:10 AM

[quote="Recycled Spooge":57f93]Guys, you go back in time once you go OVER the speed of light.[/quote:57f93]

ed:

You're back! Holy hell!

Old Reliable · 12-15-2003, 01:11 AM

The theory of time travel is as realistic today as God

SoLiDUS · 12-15-2003, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty9

Hehe, good luck.

I have 2 tests this week as well. I have to study tomorrow.

Anyway, i'll ry to explain this as best I can.

Lets get what we know stright first:

John is born in 1998. He grows up and at the year 2036 he comes back to 2003 and puts up a website explaining whatever.

Now your saying what would happen if 5 year old John was looking at the site 38 year old John made, and died, right?

The explination for this is very simple, and i've been saying it all along. It would not be possible to kill 5 year old John, because he is to grow up and travel back in time from 2036 to 2003 and put up a website.

You could try to kill him, or maybe he tries to kill himself. If I came along and tried to kill 5 year old John, maybe he caught me or maybe I shot him in the leg. Or maybe he juped off the roof but only broke his arm. It doesn't matter because John must live until at least 2036. If somehow John died at 5 years old, then he wouldn't live to the year 2036, and he wouldn't come back in time and make a site and John at 5 wouldn't be looking at it.

You're missing the point: John refers to timelines, which basically talks of
infinite universes. In his case, returning to the "past" simply creates a new
timeline. Killing John Titor of this timeline simply means that even if he had
the chance to go back given perfect conditions, he'd be unable to because
you capped his ass.

You guys need to lay off the "singular linear timeline" bullshit and embrace
multiverses.

bwolf · 12-15-2003, 01:16 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":a0282]The theory of time travel is as realistic today as God[/quote:a0282]
i'm going to stay away from this one. not taking sides... although i doubt too much debate will arise.... everyone is asleep and their are a lot of atheists here.

Pyro · 12-15-2003, 01:18 AM

[quote=bwolf]

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Old Reliable":0b67b

The theory of time travel is as realistic today as God

i'm going to stay away from this one. not taking sides... although i doubt too much debate will arise.... everyone is asleep and their are a lot of atheists here.[/quote:0b67b]

maybe he believes in god and says it is realistic to believe in time travel.

Old Reliable · 12-15-2003, 01:18 AM

i no longer believe in a god, but a natural force called ENERGY eek:

bwolf · 12-15-2003, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty9

Hehe, good luck.

I have 2 tests this week as well. I have to study tomorrow.

Anyway, i'll ry to explain this as best I can.

Lets get what we know stright first:

John is born in 1998. He grows up and at the year 2036 he comes back to 2003 and puts up a website explaining whatever.

Now your saying what would happen if 5 year old John was looking at the site 38 year old John made, and died, right?

The explination for this is very simple, and i've been saying it all along. It would not be possible to kill 5 year old John, because he is to grow up and travel back in time from 2036 to 2003 and put up a website.

You could try to kill him, or maybe he tries to kill himself. If I came along and tried to kill 5 year old John, maybe he caught me or maybe I shot him in the leg. Or maybe he juped off the roof but only broke his arm. It doesn't matter because John must live until at least 2036. If somehow John died at 5 years old, then he wouldn't live to the year 2036, and he wouldn't come back in time and make a site and John at 5 wouldn't be looking at it.

You're missing the point: John refers to timelines, which basically talks of
infinite universes. In his case, returning to the "past" simply creates a new
timeline. Killing John Titor of this timeline simply means that even if he had
the chance to go back given perfect conditions, he'd be unable to because
you capped his ass.

You guys need to lay off the "singular linear timeline" bullshit and embrace
multiverses.

i don't care what john says... going back in time isn't possible anyways.
here's my dead the infinite universes dealie.... if their are infinite number of universes, and lets assume they all behave like ours, that is they are all expanding in all directions indeffinately, then they would have to run into each and collide and chaos would errupt and we'd all die and then god wouldn't exist and aliens would eat our souls until they burst

SoLiDUS · 12-15-2003, 01:21 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":18434]i no longer believe in a god, but a natural force called ENERGY eek:[/quote:18434]

... and I'm a secular spiritualist. Let's drink to that! beer:

bwolf · 12-15-2003, 01:22 AM

[quote=Pyro]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Old Reliable":ec1bb

The theory of time travel is as realistic today as God

i'm going to stay away from this one. not taking sides... although i doubt too much debate will arise.... everyone is asleep and their are a lot of atheists here.

maybe he believes in god and says it is realistic to believe in time travel.[/quote:ec1bb]

[quote="Old Reliable":ec1bb]i no longer believe in a god, but a natural force called ENERGY [/quote:ec1bb]
i'm off the hook

SoLiDUS · 12-15-2003, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwolf

i don't care what john says... going back in time isn't possible anyways.
here's my dead the infinite universes dealie.... if their are infinite number of universes, and lets assume they all behave like ours, that is they are all expanding in all directions indeffinately, then they would have to run into each and collide and chaos would errupt and we'd all die and then god wouldn't exist and aliens would eat our souls until they burst

No credentials and no specialisation in the subject currently being discussed
but you make the claim that time travel is absolutely impossible. I love you
and your kind...

As for my particular post, I did not entertain the possibility that he travelled
back in time but that rather, he jumped to another universe. You can claim
that such an action is impossible but you are merely labelling yourself a fool
because you are not an authority on the topic and your knowledge is clearly
too limited (as is everyone else's) to judge whether or not "jumping" or time
travel is possible.

Get a PhD, become a well-known cosmologist and I might take your word for
it.

bwolf · 12-15-2003, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwolf

i don't care what john says... going back in time isn't possible anyways.
here's my dead the infinite universes dealie.... if their are infinite number of universes, and lets assume they all behave like ours, that is they are all expanding in all directions indeffinately, then they would have to run into each and collide and chaos would errupt and we'd all die and then god wouldn't exist and aliens would eat our souls until they burst

No credentials and no specialisation in the subject currently being discussed
but you make the claim that time travel is absolutely impossible. I love you
and your kind...

As for my particular post, I did not entertain the possibility that he travelled
back in time but that rather, he jumped to another universe. You can claim
that such an action is impossible but you are merely labelling yourself a fool
because you are not an authority on the topic and your knowledge is clearly
too limited (as is everyone else's) to judge whether or not "jumping" or time
travel is possible.

Get a PhD, become a well-known cosmologist and I might take your word for
it.

good try at being an ass. i have explained myself more in depth earlier in this thread. i have already explained why it is impossible to travel back in time, and i raised a question about infinite universes, never said i was right. i never said i was of any authority. although i am apparently much more educated and intelligent than you since you completely ignored what i said and could only pay attention to the idea THAT i said something. go back and read what i said, think about what i said, then respond to what i said instead of just babbling. For it is proven the universe will expan indefinatly which DOES cause a problem if there are infinite universes. now work on not being a jerk, because this discussion had been going on quite fine a few hours now without you.

and don't try to say "i love you and your kind" cause you don't know me

SoLiDUS · 12-15-2003, 01:38 AM

imwithstupid:

Edit:

Like I said, become an authority in that field and I'll listen.