Communism is a really futuristic concept...or should we die? - Page 2

Recycled Spooge · 10-30-2002, 04:26 PM

Alright professors, you still failed to answer the question. We WILL be replaced at our jobs by machines. Samething happened in farming as I already said. Back in the 1800's most of the people in the western world were still farmers, but now they are not due to technology; thus this....
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The creation, destruction, implementation, developement, manufacturing of technology creates MORE jobs.
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is wrong, and as I said NOBODY will work because there will be machines manufacturing for them, and taking their jobs. That's the whole damn point, and now that people will have no jobs, they will not be able to have food unless the machine owners share the money with the unemployed. Get it?

ninty · 10-30-2002, 04:28 PM

It'll be just like in the Matrix where the machones take over!!

Recycled Spooge · 10-30-2002, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pest

Humans will never automate themselves out of society. Increased automation will free people to pursue alternative activities. Kind of like tv. A hundred years ago, no one had time to watch tv, so even if it existed, it would be pointless. With more effiecient production (of everything) we had "idle" time to invent, manufacture, and watch tv. Plus there was a whole new industry created just to make programming.

So everyone will program? There will be 6,000,000,000 positions just for programmers? It's like having 1,000 people to design one car, but these days you can have one guys design a car on his own with a computer.

Recycled Spooge · **Re: wouldn't work -** 10-30-2002, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayer

communism in theory is not a bad idea, but it has never worked and never will.

Looks like someone didn't care to read the first post in this topic, since I have just shown that it could work. Thus, the statement you just posted makes no sense without any type of reasonable support.

Milla · 10-30-2002, 05:32 PM

spooge why are you a commie?

Recycled Spooge · 10-30-2002, 05:37 PM

[quote="Capt. John Miller":df2c5]spooge why are you a commie?[/quote:df2c5]
Because I want to take your computer and television set.... idiots.

Milla · 10-30-2002, 07:03 PM

ANYTHING BUT MY COMPUTER!!!! TAKE MY PARENTS!!

pest · 10-30-2002, 07:38 PM

[quote="Recycled Spooge":a8726]

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Originally Posted by pest

Humans will never automate themselves out of society. Increased automation will free people to pursue alternative activities. Kind of like tv. A hundred years ago, no one had time to watch tv, so even if it existed, it would be pointless. With more effiecient production (of everything) we had "idle" time to invent, manufacture, and watch tv. Plus there was a whole new industry created just to make programming.

So everyone will program? There will be 6,000,000,000 positions just for programmers? It's like having 1,000 people to design one car, but these days you can have one guys design a car on his own with a computer.[/quote:a8726]

Yes and no. You keep taking my posts literally, word for word. By programming I meant tv programs, i.e. actors, writers, production assistants, etc, the works. I sited tv as a micro economy, not a macro, just to make a quick point. This isnt a disertation, just an informal discussion. Apply my reply to the economy as a whole, with many industries trasforming into many industries, and I said the same thing you did, just in my words, not yours.

And if you want to be literal, no, one guy doesnt design a car by himself on a computer. You have a team that each has its specialty (frame, powertrain, electrical, yada, yada, yada) and then you need to apply overheads for the admin support, marketing, executive teams, etc. But we dont really want to be literal, do we?

Vance · 10-30-2002, 08:29 PM

Teacher: ''And giving every person equal rights when they are clearly not equal is what again kids?''

Kids: ''Communism!''

Ah, good ol' Simpsons.

JowShmoe · 10-30-2002, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ninty9

It'll be just like in the Matrix where the machones take over!!

if it is i don't want to be one of the people fighting for freedom. i would rather have sex with the girl in the red dress for all of my 'life'

as for communism, down with it! facism too. as for machines, they have limits, i dunno where they are, but they are there, and thats why they will need humans

Tripper · 10-30-2002, 09:45 PM

You silly shits.......LONG LIVE THE ARISTOCRACY!

10-30-2002, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JowShmoe

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Originally Posted by ninty9

It'll be just like in the Matrix where the machones take over!!

if it is i don't want to be one of the people fighting for freedom. i would rather have sex with the girl in the red dress for all of my 'life'

as for communism, down with it! facism too. as for machines, they have limits, i dunno where they are, but they are there, and thats why they will need humans

machines take over?
do you see how stupid AI players are biggrin:

if we ever did have to go to war against machines it would be guile and deceit all the way, computers are stupid strategists they think linear and cannot adapt.

Bleuachdu · 10-30-2002, 10:09 PM

Is this a discussion spooge? Or just listen to what spooge says. You asked for thoughts. I gave you mine. You tell me I'm wrong. Lets talk despots and dictatorships.

ninty · 10-30-2002, 10:12 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":55d63]

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Originally Posted by JowShmoe

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Originally Posted by ninty9

It'll be just like in the Matrix where the machones take over!!

if it is i don't want to be one of the people fighting for freedom. i would rather have sex with the girl in the red dress for all of my 'life'

as for communism, down with it! facism too. as for machines, they have limits, i dunno where they are, but they are there, and thats why they will need humans

machines take over?
do you see how stupid AI players are biggrin:

if we ever did have to go to war against machines it would be guile and deceit all the way, computers are stupid strategists they think linear and cannot adapt.[/quote:55d63]

LOL

Yeah they'll run into the side of a building and keep their legs moving and not find a way to go around for a few hours.

Recycled Spooge · 10-30-2002, 10:54 PM

[quote=pest]

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Originally Posted by "Recycled Spooge":6c03f

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Originally Posted by pest

Humans will never automate themselves out of society. Increased automation will free people to pursue alternative activities. Kind of like tv. A hundred years ago, no one had time to watch tv, so even if it existed, it would be pointless. With more effiecient production (of everything) we had "idle" time to invent, manufacture, and watch tv. Plus there was a whole new industry created just to make programming.

So everyone will program? There will be 6,000,000,000 positions just for programmers? It's like having 1,000 people to design one car, but these days you can have one guys design a car on his own with a computer.

Yes and no. You keep taking my posts literally, word for word. By programming I meant tv programs, i.e. actors, writers, production assistants, etc, the works. I sited tv as a micro economy, not a macro, just to make a quick point. This isnt a disertation, just an informal discussion. Apply my reply to the economy as a whole, with many industries trasforming into many industries, and I said the same thing you did, just in my words, not yours.
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Well, not everyone in the world will be an actor, writer, or a production assistant. I think that, that industry will always belong to the elite few. In terms of the car, I'm pretty sure a person can design a can on his own. Not build, but design, eh actually a person can build a car on their own too.