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Rude - that is very cool and I agree with the comment that guns owners should have to have safety training. Hunter safety courses are required, why not a gun safety course for first time gun owners. I respect that you are involving the family. My son is still to young to shoot (17 months) and my wife doesnt have much interest although she shot m16s in the airforce.

I have mostly hunting guns myself with those being mostly shotguns, with some deer rifles. Duck hunting has always been my passion, and yes my shotguns are made to kill. Anyone that has much experience with shotguns know that the shottys in MOH are underpowered.

I think I was chatting with you on the server a few weeks ago about some of the guns I got to shoot. I got to shoot a mp5 and a m11, both legal, privately owned, full auto, suppressed. Very cool. I think you mentioned that the semi auto mp5 went for about $4k. The full auto goes for about $7k. The only problem with the class 3 license (full auto) is that you have to give the government the right to enter your house to take the weapon anytime they want with out a warrant or due cause.

Low spark - I respect that you are teaching gun safety even though you are against guns.

I have been around guns my whole life. I love guns. You can never own enough. If nothing else they make good investments. Guns are nothing more than tools. They need to be treated with respect, and gun safety needs to be taught at an early age. They also need to be stored properly and safely. I dont have a gun safe yet, but as my son is getting more and more mobile and curious, I will have one soon.