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Default 03-26-2005, 12:39 AM

[quote="TGB!":d224e]

Third and Fourth Article - let them sue if they feel they were unlawfully detained. . .good luck though on a non-citizen and likely non-naturalized "citizen" taking this court. Were authorities overzealous in their canvassing - possibly. . .no arm of the justice department is immune to mistakes - again let em sue. Federal Courts and the Supreme courts have made their decisions regarding the PA, and the only "blow" has been two court cases - one dealing with the so-called Sneak and Peeks and the detaining of prisoners on "foreign" soil. . .hardly the indictment against the PA that the ACLU would like. [/quote:d224e]
So is this not an example of the Patriot Act?

It doesn't matter anyway. The fact still remains that thousands have been arrested under the patriot act, and only one has been charged with any form of terrorism. Even if no one was arrested Liberties are still being violated.

[quote:d224e]# (802) Allows law enforcement to conduct secret searches, perform roving wiretaps, and gain access to highly personal medical, financial, mental health, and student records.

# (206 and 507) Authorizes law enforcement officials to force librarians and booksellers to hand over book check-out and internet use records.

# (215) Allows FBI agents to investigate citizens for criminal activity without probable cause if they say it is for "intelligence purposes".

# (218) Allows law enforcement to search a person's home without anyone present and to delay notification indefinitely.[/quote:d224e]

Not to mention the definition of terrorism has been changed to:
[quote:d224e]SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;[/quote:d224e]

Under these provisions, homeland security has done the following:

[url="http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=206591"]http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=206591[/url]
http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/rea ... =315&t=315
http://www.rense.com/general52/black.htm
http://www.kron.com/Global/story.asp?s=%20%201268949
http://grep.law.harvard.edu/article.pl? ... ode=thread
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stori ... 10819.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... DT0480.DTL
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030 ... -5163r.htm
http://www.unknownnews.net/030929dead.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0628-01.htm
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/ ... 18708.html


[quote:d224e]
And once again - you asserted - to bolster your AQ and Global Terrorism isnt REALLY that big of a problem ( rolleyes: ) - that Bush Co. gave AQ their name. . .which is not true and which your link does nothing to prove. Using your logic. . .since we named Italy, Germany, and Japan the "AXIS OF EVIL" - that whole WW2 thing was all in all a whole bunch of nothing. . .we "named" em for political gain. . .nothing to see here. . .move on Jews[/quote:d224e]
It wasn't to bolster an argument. Coleman brought it up. oOo:

And on the topic of congress:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0109-12.htm
  
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