Duke denied by another female and snaps? - Page 4

Short Hand · 04-03-2005, 08:57 AM

[quote:36c6d]# 1995 estimates on the cost of the Canadian Firearms Program were that it would cost $119 million, but that registration fees would bring in $117 million, leaving the total cost to the taxpayers of $2 million.
# In December 2002, a preliminary audit by the Auditor General of Canada revealed that the Department of Justice was estimating the gun registry program would cost more than $1 billion by 2004-05, and collect about $140 million in fees. The Auditor General noted that this estimate did not include all financial impacts on the government[/quote:36c6d]

not quite a billion, but close... a pretty big "mistake by the government" yes.

..compared to a MULTi billion doller war...... http://costofwar.com/

75 billion was the orginal estimate.. now look.

Operation fucking Disaster more like it.

Johnj · 04-03-2005, 09:04 AM

[quote="Short Hand":dfb9a]well that may be true, but here unlike there, we can TRUST, our government to a certain degree.[/quote:dfb9a]

I like the qualifier you put on the end. Or in other words YOU CAN'T TRUST YOUR GOVERNMENT.

Vance · 04-03-2005, 10:47 AM

[quote="mr.miyagi":0fcac]Can anyone give me some good reasons to why america needs so many guns?

Why do civillians own guns?[/quote:0fcac]
Normal people with guns don't shoot other people because they wouldn't kiss them... oOo:

mr.miyagi · 04-03-2005, 11:41 AM

[quote=Johnj]

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Originally Posted by "mr.myiagi":16f03

I jus think its sad how you all need guns to defend yourselves thats all, I mean Canada has tons of guns but their gun murder rate is tiny, America's is the biggest in the world....hundreds of other countries have no guns and obviously have no gun murders ever.
You may say more lives are saved because of gun ownership? well thats silly because look at all of the lives taken in the process to balance it out, thousands and thousands. Just because lives are saved because of them doesn't take away the fact theres so many taken in the process.

I think it is sad that your government thinks so little of you that they don't even trust you to own a gun.[/quote:16f03]
We don't want or even ask for guns, we can take care of ourselves without them. Not having guns around is a great thing, all they're used for is for killing stuff.

Colonel · 04-03-2005, 11:42 AM

[quote="Short Hand":48330]... cost to the taxpayers of $2 million.....
# In December 2002, a preliminary audit by the Auditor General of Canada revealed that the Department of Justice was estimating the gun registry program would cost more than $1 billion by 2004-05, and collect about $140 million in fees. The Auditor General noted that this estimate did not include all financial impacts on the government
.[/quote:48330]

This was an estimate from 2002. They were right about it not including all of the costs.

As for the war in Iraq, in terms of percentage overrun, I would say that the Canadian estimate was further from the actual expenditure.

Short Hand · 04-03-2005, 12:18 PM

160 500 000 000less then 2 years. > 1 000 000 000 over 10 years

Colonel · 04-03-2005, 12:40 PM

[quote="Short Hand":42ab1]160 500 000 000less then 2 years. > 1 000 000 000 over 10 years[/quote:42ab1]

LOL - I understand the actual dollar is higher - I'm talking about telling the Canadina people you will only cost them 2 million and instead the cost is, very conservatively. going to be 500 times higher. If the US had a overrun that high the cost of the war would be $37,500,000,000,000 (or almost 15 times the entire US annual budget) And like I said the 1 billion is conservative - there is no end in sight and it looks like it will be in the multiple billions. So that it could be a 1000 times or 1500 times more than originally projected.

Tripper · 04-03-2005, 01:16 PM

[quote=Johnj]

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Originally Posted by "mr.myiagi":eb9fa

I jus think its sad how you all need guns to defend yourselves thats all, I mean Canada has tons of guns but their gun murder rate is tiny, America's is the biggest in the world....hundreds of other countries have no guns and obviously have no gun murders ever.
You may say more lives are saved because of gun ownership? well thats silly because look at all of the lives taken in the process to balance it out, thousands and thousands. Just because lives are saved because of them doesn't take away the fact theres so many taken in the process.

I think it is sad that your government thinks so little of you that they don't even trust you to own a gun.[/quote:eb9fa]

^ That kind of statement pisses me off so much....Demonstrates that anyone who says it believes the rest of the world hold guns to the same regard as said person does. NOT TRUE. Britain, New Zealand, Austalia etc, owning a gun is a PRIVILEGE. Not a right.

That being said, however, it's understandable looking at the U.S's history, frontiers, wild west, war of independence etc.

It's different in our countries though....

So I'm not criticising American gun laws here, I'm simply saying it is different in our countries and that we as a people are very HAPPY with our gun laws, they suit the current situation, and if we were offered a law change, I can guarantee, that down here in NZ at least, the laws would remain. That proves that we're not being oppressed by our government, so you don't need to feel 'sad.'

This isn't anything personal, Johnj, I've read similar statements around here a couple of times. Just thought I'd make this decleration because it bothers me that people think we're some how oppressed by our governments because of our tight gun laws....

Machette · 04-03-2005, 01:33 PM

I love America. beer: rock: rock: rock: rock: rock: cool:

annoy:

CoMaToSe · 04-03-2005, 01:53 PM

so this is why toobis has gone AWOL

Johnj · 04-03-2005, 03:14 PM

I don't think you guys will ever understand. It's like trying to explain refrigeration to a Roman gladiator

Tripper · 04-03-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnj

I don't think you guys will ever understand. It's like trying to explain refrigeration to a Roman gladiator

Understand American gun laws? Or why our governments are oppressing us?

Pyro · 04-03-2005, 04:03 PM

DUKE YOU CAN BE MY MAN IF YOU WANT

Short Hand · 04-03-2005, 05:03 PM

[quote=Colonel]

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Short Hand":4aa33

160 500 000 000less then 2 years. > 1 000 000 000 over 10 years

LOL - I understand the actual dollar is higher - I'm talking about telling the Canadina people you will only cost them 2 million and instead the cost is, very conservatively. going to be 500 times higher. If the US had a overrun that high the cost of the war would be $37,500,000,000,000 (or almost 15 times the entire US annual budget) And like I said the 1 billion is conservative - there is no end in sight and it looks like it will be in the multiple billions. So that it could be a 1000 times or 1500 times more than originally projected.[/quote:4aa33]

I give up with trying to argue republicans. oOo:

Chronic Diarrhea · 04-03-2005, 06:13 PM

My good friend of mine was approached by some punk with a switchblade late at night while my friend was depositing some money at the bank (he's a manager for a restaurant so he had to do it after closing time.) Thankfully, he had a gun under his seat, and just got it and pointed it at the punk. The guy saw the gun, so he decided death probably wasn't worth the money, and left.