[Judas]

Originally Posted by jujumantb

All lowend stuff will be about the same sounding. You get what you pay for. Koss and Sony are a joke when it comes to audio.

dunno about koss, but the sony ones arent quite as loud as the ones that came with the player ... i think its the design tho. seems like the are designed to get the most bass.

they work for me tho ... comfort was more important than sound when i was looking ... the creative ones had my ears hurting like fuk.